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DAY 1:
Well I just got back from Boston/ NY and am knackered. First thing I did was go to Panasonic HQ in Bracknell. Drop off the Gh2, the review of which is delayed as I have a faulty sample am afraid, and then picked up the AG-AF100 pre-production model (so image quality may not be same as retail version)
First off I need to point out this is a totally independent review/ analysis of the AF100. Panasonic are being completely hands off and letting me have free reign here. Hats off to them for this.
I will be updating this blog as I play with it and get to grips with it. It’s a funny looking camera and certainly looks better proportioned with a nice PL lens on it rather than still lenses but I am not interested in how sexy it looks. I care how well it performs in the following areas.
Low light
Moire
Aliasing
Rolling Shutter
Resolution
I will do as much testing as I can, unfortunately the timing is not ideal as I have a shoot tomorrow so I won’t get a chance to do anything with it. But first impressions are good. I have shot a little footage at 3200 ISO and it looks pretty damn good! Great to have features on the camera that I miss SOOOOO much on my DSLRs.
Great to have a 4 setting ND filter wheel. Great to have a really good quality waveform, XLR inputs, zebras, headphone jack (!), the list goes on and on…stuff I struggle with not having on my DSLRs.
First thing I did, despite my hideous jet lag was a quick and dirty low light test. In the devastation that used to be my kitchen I set the camera to 3200 ISO, stuck a Leica M mount Voigtlander 50mm 1.1 with Fotodiox adaptor (costs around $900 for the lens, an amazing lens), used a box of matches and a fat cuban cigar (smoking is bad, only lit it for the piece…mostly!) Unfortunately I have found out that it was ISO 2000, the 3200 ISO just said it was on this pre-production camera…have to wait to Japan to see it now.
One thing I noticed straight off is if you are serious about your filmmaking you will need to invest in a Nanoflash, Ki-Pro type device. 24mbs AVCHD is fine for most things but you simply are not getting the best out of the camera. The HD-SDI of the camera may only be 8-bit but with a nice I-Frame codec you will get a much better image out of it…this camera with a higher bit rate using an external recorder will be much more powerful.
3200 ISO Panasonic AF100 from Philip Bloom on Vimeo.
A qucik and dirty test of the low light of the AF100.
Voigtlander 50mm F1.1
3200 ISO
Ungraded
Music by Aphex Twin
DAY 2:
Unfortunately i have been working all day today on a proper shoot on so the AF100 stayed at home. Tomorrow is when i will do as much shooting as I can, with only 1 battery!
I have prepped the gear for what I need.
Got my Philip Bloom Kessler Crane Slider
Miller Compass head with Solo sticks
Zacuto counterbalanced handheld rig
Nanoflash with powerbase 70
Adaptors for Leica M, Canon EOS and Nikon lenses
7-14mm F4 M4/3 lens
Kit lens from my GH1
Various vintage Nikon lenses
Zeiss ZF 50mm, 85mm and 100mm
Canon 70-200 F4
So am am all ready to shoot tomorrow. I am not planning on making a “film” as such. I feel it’s more important to test out the different options, see how well it performs etc…I just hope that battery lasts!
Wish me luck!
Day 3:
It was a bumpy start! I put the one battery I had, ones which are designed for the HM150, on charge and when it was done that night to make sure I did not forget it I put it back on the camera before I went to sleep. That was a mistake as I had left the camera on so when I woke up and started fiddling with the camera. It was dead. The only day I had to shoot. The only battery I had. FLAT. Not good. I put out a desperate tweet, no joy. I emailed Panasonic who had no spares when I saw them two days earlier, got back to me saying they had two spares with chargers and they would bike them to me. THANK GOD! Although when they arrived they were the small batteries and both flat! Still we managed to make it work!
I met my good friend Suresh Kara from Documovie.co.uk, currently a 5DmkII shooter/ director but also an HPX 171 and prior to that an HVX owner so he was very keen on seeing this new camera.
Now this camera is only 75% finished. I get to play with a production version at the Panasonic factory in Osaka, Japan in November and will be shooting with it in Kyoto. For now I had to work within it’s limitations. Yes, it was buggy and fiddly but not enough to stop me shooting with it. Proper white balancing is part of the missing 25% as well as lots of other things including facial tracking focusing which is one of the tests I wanted to do with my kit lens from the GH1 which works so well on that camera.
We started off at a company called Livity in Brixton to see how well it worked under mixed lighting, fluorescents and daylight. I shot a small sequence in there before venturing onto the roof to get some nice high shots of the South London skyline. My 7-14mm lumix lens is a stonking lens. Minimal distortion and just bloody wide. Equivalent of a 14mm on a full frame camera. One downer is it’s F4, which caused me issues later on in the shoot. I also used the 80-200mm F2.8 Nikon push pull zoom and I did a few rolling shutter tests with it. Yes, skew is still present but pretty minimal with this lens. This you can see on my test footage. The camera with the 7-14mm lens on looks ridiculous. It’s so small! It looked SO much better with the big zoom on it!
We used my Kessler Crane Philip Bloom special edition Pocket Dolly inside the office. Worked a treat with the camera!! Again, this is on the test footage at the bottom of the blog.
From the roof onwards I shot dual AVCHD and Nanoflash XDCAM 422 160mb/s. I will show the footage side by side later this week in a separate blog with full frame screen grabs, right now I just concentrated on the native 24mb/s AVCHD footage.
After that I did some handheld stuff with an absolute frankenrig I knocked together from some of my Zacuto parts. Using the counter balance weight, an arm for the Nanoflash and a Switronix Powerbase 70 to power the Nanoflash.
Although I did bring with my a Canon EOS lens I didn’t bother. With no way to control the aperture I stuck with my full manual lenses I understand someone is making an aperture controllable EOS mount at the moment. I need that! Mostly I used some really old Nikons that I own. In particular a 50mm F1.2 I picked up from ebay for about $250 and a 10 year old 80-200mm zoom. These lenses performed really well and I was swapping a lot as Suresh will tell you! I also used the Sigma F1.4 30mm. It’s a four thirds lens so needs an adaptor, but it’s the same glass as I recommend for T2i/ 7d users. A cracking lens!
I got some cracking shallow depth of field with the 50mm and the joy of this camera is I was able to maintain the perfect shutter speed for optimum film motion and more or less be at the aperture I wanted due to the 4 wheel ND filter. No need for a Vari ND here. Something I have become use to with my DSLRS and it does work a treat. But coming from a video camera background having proper NDs built into the camera was a real joy.
The menus are more reminiscent of the HM line than the HPX line, a bit more basic but still got lots of tweaks in there for picture adjustment. To be honest I did not take not of the exact settings I had in there. I don’t know Panasonic cameras as well as my Sony or Canon cameras. I did set it to Cine V gamma and had the sharpness down to -7 as well as some other things.
I set the camera to 50hz as I shot at 1080p 25p, you can set to 59.97hz for the US frame rates and 24p. I also set it to film mode so instead of gain I had ISO. It was slightly odd in that you have 3 settings on the gain switch low, medium and high and you can assign one in a set range for each one. I am so used to gain on video cameras, for them to suddenly become different ISOs was interesting. The lowest ISO is 200, the highest is 3200 (but not working on this pre-prodution camera) Not 5Dmk2 good but better than the 7D for sure. In film mode you can set your shutter to 180 degrees for perfect film motion, so even when you change frame rates it stays at 180 degrees. One thing you need to be aware of you can only shoot one format per card. So if you switch between 50 and 59.97 hertz use separate cards.
The waveform/ vectorscopes are fantastic, 100 times better than what the histogram on the Canon DSLRs. A very accurate way of judging exposure. The viewfinder on the other hand was not good, but that because this is not the one that will end up on the final camera. Just a temporary one. So I used the LCD screen all the time and sometime my Marshall 5″ HDMI monitor. The LCD screen is actually pretty good. You can help get focus by adding detail on and there is a peaking option too…No digital zoom in that I could tell, but that may be added in the 25% to come, or not!
I actually did not record any XLR audio. It’s there, I am sure it works a treat. It’s a proper video camera after all with XLRs, levels, a headphone jack. The thing that REALLY excited me was the overcrank mode. I could record 1080p 25p at 50FPS or 60FPS in 24p mode!! Wonderful, no more limited to 720p mode here! The overcrank in this camera is simply beautiful. I used to shoot so much slow motion with my EX1/ Letus combo but obviously not possible with my 5Dmk2 and the 720p 50p/60p of the 7D has so much moire and aliasing that it gets me down, shoot shallow depth of field and it works fine as demonstrated in my film “As the water”
Being able to shoot full HD overcranked to 50FPS or 60 and the ability to record high quality audio in camera has totally sold me on this camera.
Other upsides of the camera. It takes just about any lens with the right adaptor. Everything from PL to Leica M. Really useful that! Loads of really accessible and useful buttons on the outside include the ability to easily switch to overcrank at the touch of a button. I have heard rumours that you can change the speed during a shot but I was not able to do that. This may be because of the 25% or you simply may not be able to!
The US list price is pretty damn good too. It’s a lot of video camera for the money! Here in England we are a bit screwed as always. So frustrating that.
Yes it is a bit ugly, especially with little lenses…but I would rather have a camera that performs really well and was a bit odd looking than a beautiful camera that shoots ok pictures. But still a nice manly lens on there and she looks WAY better!
It has an interval record feature, but like all the other Panasonic cameras it is not as good as the Sony EX1/ Ex3 as there is no slow shutter and undercrank only goes to 12FPS. But still it is there and that is a good thing. Being the timelapse junky that I am in does not come anywhere near the power of a DSLR for timelapse though. NOWHERE NEAR…
Downsides, UK price…ugly, menus a bit fiddly (but this may improve with the production version), sensor size being micro four thirds means most of your 35mm lens are a bit telephoto. With a 2x crop from a full frame 35mm sensor you lose a lot on those lenses. So my 50mm gives me a field of view of 100mm. That is the biggest issue. On the wide end I have my Lumix 7-14mm, not the cheapest lens in the world but pretty DAMN good. Sharp and rectalinear. SO minimal distortion. BUT it’s F4 so at night it was a struggle. I was trying to get a good shot of the London eye and I simply could not get it all in. My F4 at 3200 ISO was too dark and my next lens from that is my 30mm F1.4 Sigma which is like 60mm EFL.
Ergonomics…it’s awkward handheld. More so than the other cameras of this size due to still lenses being used. It needs a handheld rig. I used a big zacuto one but I think I may adapt one of my smaller DSLR rigs from them instead…
Panasonic urgently need to bring out some fast wide lenses. it’s the single biggest issues with the camera. Now there is an Olympus 14-35mm F2, now that’s bloody fast for a zoom. It’s pricey but this is the next best lens to use for this camera.
It was a real pleasure shooting with this camera, wide lenses and pre-production aside. The low light was really good, not full frame DSLR amazing but MILES better than my GH1. User friendly. Great exposure assistants like waveform and zebras. Two features to help you focus. Proper sound. Minimal rolling shutter but best of all. I could not see ANY moire or aliasing in things that would show up with my DSLRs normally…this is a big deal. I would actually like to see this camera in front of a chart and i HATE charts!
The AVCHD 24mb’s is OK… My short “South” below is totally ungraded. I think something like the Atomos , Nanoflash , P2 gear or the KiPro mini are going to be essential for serious filmmakers. AVCHD is fine for a lot of stuff, just don’t expect it to hold up to too much…
The real question…and I loathe this question but get asked a lot. “IS IT A DLSR KILLER?”….the answer is simply no.No camera is a “killer”, cameras can quite happily and should co-exist! There is a market for them all. Sure when this type of thing becomes more common when Sony and Canon do something similar more pros with larger pockets will start using them but they are different to DSLRs, bigger and more expensive and this camera is priced pretty aggressively am sure the Sony and Canon offerings will struggle to match this price point.
It’s another tool for a cinematographer like myself to use. I would choose this over my 5Dmk2 for many things, I would also happily use it in conjunction. For recording sound in camera, filming actuality (this is a great documentary camera and great for wedding shooters too, great for one man band and great low light) , getting easier focus and amazing slow motion this wins hands down. But the DSLRs are cheaper, lenses are less of an issue, are smaller, less conspicuous, shoot better timelapse, I can take multiple bodies with me…there are loads of reasons why I will continue to shoot with my Canons or whatever other DSLRs I end up buying. Will I buy this camera the moment it comes out? Bloody right. It performed so well, despite being 75% finished, and was a joy to shoot with but more importantly I was very happy with the images I got. I still could get my beloved shallow depth of field, sure not 5dmk2 or 7d shallow but not far off the APS-C. i cannot wait to go to Japan and shoot with the finished camera!
At the moment I am purely guessing the latitude, i need to get the camera set up better so anything i say could be wrong so I will stay quiet on that for now!
So…should you buy an AF100 instead of a Canon DSLR? Well it has many plusses, the lack of moire and aliasing. Less rolling shutter skew, proper sound, better focusing and exposure assist. Proper SDI and HDMI clean outs and loads more. But it’s just different…it’s a video camera. This is not a convergence camera! Don’t expect to be taking awesome stills and video with this. THIS IS A VIDEO CAMERA! That is not a bad thing, it’s a good thing. I have missed video cameras. Welcome back, but I will still have my 5D or two in my bag. There is so much I love about my DSLRs still! This is like a replacement for my EX1 and 35mm adaptor.
I am looking forward to getting a production GH2 as the pre one I had was very buggy, it could be a killer B-camera for the AF100…especially as you can shoot awesome time-lapse with it! 😉
Below is the test short film I shot called “South”. I am currently editing together a few test shots of handheld, rolling shutter etc that I will upload straight after so keep an eye out for that too!
The short is very much one of my snapshots of people and places that I love to do…very much like my older 35mm adaptor work.
South: Test film shot with Panasonic AF100 from Philip Bloom on Vimeo.
Shot in South London and the South Bank with a 75% finished Panasonic AF100 and Lumix and Nikon lenses.
Read more on my blog here! http://philipbloom.net2010/10/19/af100/
Music by Shigeru Umebayashi
“George’s Waltz”
Here is a commentary….don’t press play on video until I tell you to and then press pause on video when I say…
Commentary for South: AF100 test film by PhilipBloom
AF100 test shots from Philip Bloom on Vimeo.
Here are some tests by other people to check out!!!
Panasonic AG AF-100 01/02 evaluation footage by CREWS.TV from Yves Simard on Vimeo.
Panasonic AG-AF100 test II from Filippo Chiesa on Vimeo.
New video filmed on Panasonic AG-AF100 (last release), mixed with Canon 5D MK II BTS footage.
NO GRADING!
536 comments
thats insane…
And damn philip your “gear” is expensive!!!!
That looks pretty damn good to me at 3200. I wonder if any other companies are going to try to compete with this camera. At $5000 for this one though I think it will have the attention of a lot of people.
Indeed…aggressive pricing
Thanks for the tests so far, Philip. I’m really excited about this camera and you are covering the main questions everyone has. I’ll be watching intently as you update this post.
Do you have the 14-140 lens to try on it? I’m curious how this zoom lens looks on the AF100.
Yes i do have it…was not planning to use it as it’s so slow though
Perfectly suited for out door wide shots during the day though 🙂 Great landscape lens.
but it is not that wide either. The camera has a 2x crop factor so it is the same field of view as a 28-180, wish the lens was at least a straight f4. The 7-whatever would make a really nice wide lens. But as with everything thing in the production world, you have to find alternative ways to get from point A to point B.
Looking forward to your next post.
28-280 is a pretty good range considering my Canon kit is 24-70 and 70-200. Now granted those are f2.8 but together they cost 4x as much. For most stuff, I think the kit lens will be a great “all purpose” lens….almost like a stock lens on a video camera. Those stop down as you zoom in too.
but they don’t start at such a slow F-Stop…
I guess I’m just curious at how the auto focus works (assuming the preproduction model supports it). Do you have any faster lenses that support AF?
I’m also interested in how well the AF works with the camera. Everything I’ve seen so far looks great though!
hey philip thx for posting this despite that you are “knackered” … can’t wait to see more of your test … as i’m sure we will see (just a bit though – due the short time you have with this cam) how the AF 100 plays in a more real life / work environment and with (your) true HDSRL background … not just “marketing” / trade-show talk 😉
… so i’m really keen to see how this thing works with photo primes and zoom lenses …how this cam is to handle with these.
one first question: what F-Stop(s) did you set the lens for this first lil high ISO test ?
now get some rest, we all are patient – so no worries 😉
i was at F1.1
Going to cram in as many scenarios as I can in the short time I have
Oh boy oh boy oh boy…
Thanks for posting so quick about this Philip. Looking forward to your further testing. Any plans to shoot a side by side with your 5d just to see the difference?
That looks exceptionally clean @ 3200!
I told you so 😉
Not killing DSLRs, just another tool in the box.
Looked good, was the focus on auto, as it did seem to drop in and out even though you didn’t appear to move forward or backwards? Can you enlighten me with ref to your comment about needing a Nano Flash.
it’s a totally manual lens set to F1.1 so the depth of field was razor thin. A nanoflash or kipro lets you record in a better format that the 24mbs AVCHD
Well I think you shouldn’t use the nanoflash, since it’s a 2000$ tool and I think most of us would like to see the camera working on it’s own… 5000$ for AF-100 + 2000$ nanoflash to get 280 mbps 4:2:2… It’s truly makes everything looks better, but, then we don’t see the camera potencial by it self and expend 7 grand!
I think you could test the Af-100 and the nanoflash separetly… If there was the case to show us how it (nanoflash) works and if it’s really worth 2000$
Thx for everything Bloom! Keep it real!
the video and tests were done with AVCHD, i also recorded Nanoflash as a test. you don’t have to use it but some will
I am terribly envious and spiteful at you Mr. Bloom. You are indeed making me jealous with the play time you are getting with this camera. Please get some sleep, and with the time you get, give us a really good review!
Thanks for everything you do!
Ryan
What I’d like to see Philip is the range of real world examples of how this camera can cope -with lit scenarios, with a range of lenses -from the affordable panasonic range of kit lenses (so we can assess their usability and fastness) as well as still primes.
Stunning info! This ‘new’ Pan 100/101 is a major page turner in the world of video options: available to anyone!
And philip: I would love to be able to smoke a cigar again!
Dan
hi, sorry we don’t see nothing interesting in these videos. 3200 ISO test is not interesting for the reason if you can afford this cam you can afford a correct lightning kit preventing you from using it at that insa
completely disagree. High ISO tests are very important. That’s the whole point! How sensitive are they? You seriously shoot everything with a big lighting kit? That is EXACTLY what we are trying to move away from. The ability to use more practical lights and shoot in places we would never normally shoot in.
True… I agree 100%
agreed. Well said.
thats the hallmark of small independant shooters/films. The ability to shoot in available light without having to rig extensive lighting setups. high iso is the tool that makes that possible. Me personally, i find it very interesting to watch a jet lagged PB swerve back and forth into focus….its pretty cool.
EXACTLY. My production model demands a minimalist lighting approach for time/cost efficiency.
I think a good example of when this is useful is the movie “Buried”. Filmed in a coffin with only a couple of lighters, a glow stick and a cell phone as light sources (both in the film and on the set). We need to know if our cameras can shoot in a situation like that without all that bad stuff showing up on our video.
Maybe someday we won’t need a huge professional Hollywood level lighting setup to make the scene look like it’s naturally lit.
Frenchy’s comment nearly has me yanking my hair out!
agreed. Great use of light in that movie
DP’s who look for reasons/excuses to avoid lighting must be either:
(a) really experienced and know when it’s called for to trim the lighting or
(b) never knew how to light to begin with
There is a third option:
(c) following the rules of Dogma 95
This from the DP who shot Vegas which competed at the World Premiere with the Hurt Locker in the main competition at the Venice FF.
Now go and attack me : )
I only found this because i just ordered (2) AF-100’s but the only demo videos i could find are of ENG style shoots. Waiting for someone who knows how to light to show me what the camera can do…if not, i’ll keep looking or simply shoot tests myself when the camera comes out before i use it on set.
use lighting for the shot not for the sake of it. people often overlight. I light to enhance and create a natural atmosphere
Are you sure? I think is more about a mix of style and budget. Think about Nestor Almendros in “Days of heaven” and Raoul Coutard in “Breathless”. In the first case, Almendros had all the budget and resources to light up and scene. He didn’t do it. It was against his believes and style. In the case of Coutard, he used a camera with no sound and lights because the hotel room was too small and a bigger camera and set up didn’t fit in. In both cases cinematography was about figuring out how to light the scene with out the conventional way to do it. Not because they didn’t know how to light or because of Dogma 95 which was unheard of those days.
Think about it.
This isn’t a pointless test.
If a camera can shoot that clean at 3200 ISO then you would assume it can provide very acceptable low noise levels at lower ISO settings.
Also, let’s not get carried away – this isn’t an Alexa, it’s still very much in the prosumer end of the market. A lot of people buying this camera will still be using modest lighting rigs or shooting only in available light, which is exactly why good high ISO performance is important.
ne setup. I would have appreciated to see the cam in moving situations, with aliasing surface (water)test, etc..real director life.
give me a chance. read the blog. FIRST TEST!!!
You really cannot please everybody :). Very nice test and so clean footage. Did you monitor your self from some monitor to get yourself in focus as with f1.1 the “sharp” range is quite limited?
Phil I think abds69 is just trolling. We all agree that a camera performing this well at 3200 iso is definitely worth having. True the video is highly compressed and true it was recorded at a crappy bitrate, but those factors aside I was impressed. Your right, lighting is very important but if your say, running and gunning near dusk in the well lit downtown of a city, 3200 could be very useful.
abds69, I think that’s not thinking outside of the (studio shaped) box. What about people who do docu work, people shooting on the streets, people on location at landmarks at night, movies shot in natural lights, sunsets, dark places where a lighting rig would ruin the ambience… the list goes on. Surely you can see that?
as philip said, its just a quick iso test and he just got it! man be patient! by the way phil it looks very clean at iso 3200! alot cleaner than the gh1 at 1600!
can you do a test at a slower aperture? shooting at a 1.1 is damn near impossible on a film set with moving actors.
i will do all sorts of tests on Thursday
cool thanks!
Wow… Thanks so much for doing this Phil. Considering that you landed back in the UK, went straight to Panasonic to get the camera and put this together so quickly is amazing.
Pretty impressive stuff from the Panasonic. Looking forward to the rest of your tests.
Just think what Canon could do …using 5Dmk2 sensor with Canon XL H1 design plus all the goodies from the AG-AF100 just think… is there any Canon executive around here 🙂 ?
3200 looks really good…and Philip you look somewhat menacing at one match power.
It’s worth noting that the 24 Mbps AVCHD PH implementation on the AF-100 still blows any and all of the DSLR codecs out of the water and is arguably the equal of something like XDCAM EX…it’s just not as good as an I-frame codec.
It’s going to be encouraging if the comments posted here are not reduced to the teenage level “YouTube”.
We are able to experience a new product that can make all of our video work easier and more productive.
HDSLR advocates are going to be very defensive toward this new devise.
If you are convinced that new camcorder is inferior from the git go….be professional enough to articulate your reasons without distain.
Dan
Great to finally see the camera with a still lens on it. Does look slightly odd but I guess looks aren’t important.
Shame the aperture on EF lenses don’t work, or at least some adaptor could be made, like that red rock one they made for their 35mm adaptor, to get them to work.
I look forward to seeing the other tests!
Someone should hack this camera to bring up the bitrate! It would be nicer if Panasonic would bring it up to 35 or 50 Mbit/sec.
And 8 Bit SDI? Why!? It’s almost 2011.
Still, a nice new camera with nice new features!
If they put in a AVC Intra codec or anything else with a higher bit rate (or 10bit HD-SDI) they would create a camera that could compete with a RED on many levels. There’s no point for Panny in doing so from a product policy standpoint.
Would it be great for us? Yes.
Would it be a wise move for Panasonic’s cash flow? Most certainly not.
You can’t have everything. Especially not for this price. It will sell like hot cakes anyway, this camera is unique on the market right now.
exactly. Put in 100mbs p2 and it will screw their whole line up! They have to handicap it from a business point of view…
As an owner of an HVX200 p2 system, i cannot stress how glad i am that this camera moves away from that format. PCMCIA is dead, dead slow, expensive, incompatible with the majority of my post-production devices, and frankly a legacy option.
It is revolutionary to me to be able to get an even better “look” out of a similar panny setup, and be able to use cheap “archivble” media, in a very post-friendly format.
That’s just to say that for me, the interframe MP4/SDXC combo is a HUGE selling point.
i agree and disagree. P2 is expensive but a very stable recording format. SDHC scares the crap out of me! no error correction…
Precisely what I told them last August. Why not AVC Intra and P2 as an option? For that matter, why not a higher data rate on the AVCHD?
For me (and others in the room) the lack of an option for Canon L series lenses was a deal breaker. The fast L-series are a main stay and most of us were unwilling to give them up. I understand there is a 3rd party in LA working on an adapter for $1-1.5K. We’ll have to see how well that works.
The crop factor also doesn’t help with L-series lenses. One thing I would like to point out is that Micro 4/3 is very close in size to the 2/3″ cameras we had for years. Our only interest in DSLR’s was to get the full frame 35 sensor… and the resulting DOF and filmic look. Not really keen on giving that up.
In the end, the two things that Panasonic came away with was that they needed a higher data rate on the AVCHD… and that they needed to consider a larger sensor in the future. It was amazing how consistent that view was among everyone in the room…
A 4/3″ chip is four time the size of a 2/3″, it is much closer to APS-C then 2/3″. I think the 4/3″ sensor size is fine, but I don’t think there is enough fast glass made for it, and mounting fast canon and nikon glass makes almost anything a telephotoish lens. Hopefully in the future Panasonic will release more fast glass in the 15-25mm range.
There is a constant f/2 zoom you can get for the 4/3″ though, its just reallly expensive.
Enjoyed the video, thanks for posting and enjoy your new toy!!
I hear AVCHD will be improved in the final version and the HD-SDI footage from Crew.TV looked very good, very high resolution and stable detail. Looking forward to seeing what Bloomy does with it.
I am really curious as to the sensor. GH1 deriative, GH2 optimised for video, or an entirely new one with a low megapixel count for video? If they have got clean 3200 from the GH2’s 18MP sensor then it must have some seriously good noise control going on, or that sensor is a hugely good one. 18MP on a Micro 4/3rds chip – that’s even more packed than a 550D.
By the way quick heads up – I tried logging in with Twitter and it does this – could you get your web guy onto it? “Catchable fatal error: Object of class WP_Error could not be converted to string in /home/philip/public_html/wp-includes/formatting.php on line 2772”
High ISO IS important and it’s one of the staples of our diets under the new DSLR revolution… that and lots of bread.
That’s the whole point of technology – that it makes our lives easier and makes things possible that were not yesterday!!!
I’m sure some people would happily shoot on film and never move on from bulky lighting rigs but that isn’t me… give me the easy way to shoot and let me get on with enjoying it.
Good lighting is a skill and it has it’s place and that will never change… but in natural environments outside of sets you need a camera which will deliver these high ISOs for an authentic look.
I agree with Andrew.
Just 6 years ago I was debating whether to “upgrade” to an XL-1, and then HD came along, and then the DSLRs, and now this.
I’m happy I got on board with a T2i earlier this year. Thanks to shooting help from people like PB I’ll be using it while watching the amazing progress being made in camera tech, then it will be time to transfer rides once again.
In regard to the high ISO, even with the net compression it still looked amazing, a little flarey when the match was lit but I again attribute that to compression.
Looking forward to the full tests
so very excited. the low light looked good. this makes me very glad i am number 2 on a waiting list. cant wait for the next two days!
on that note, what adapter for nikon have you got to try out philip? i just ordered the voightlander nikon f – M4/3, seems like a good bet.thanks!
i have the fotodiox pro Daniel
Why are you getting on Philips’ case? It’s the same as when he got the 7D, he did a small test and people complained that it wasn’t concise enough. Mr Bloom has been given this camera for a reason, have a bit of faith mate.
More importantly, what type of Cigar was that?
romeo y julieta !
Cuban, the man has a taste.
I was trying really hard to read the band! 😉
Gotta love the cigars. Check out the Man of War line… tastyyyyyyy.
Can you see what comes out of the HDMI as well as the SDI if you get a chance please. I was looking at the Atomos Ninja tonight and that would seem the ideal match if the HDMI is equivalent to the SDI
i will try!
It’s funny how people cannot seem to read the blog!!, it seems that they just rush to the pictures and videos… anyway, thanx for the test men, I surely apreciate it… Just one question, being that the sensor is smaller than the one on the 7d, it is really noticiable in the shallow DoF?
See ya!
PS:BTW that’s an ugly camera!!, hahahah, the designer made an horrible looking camera… and that evf doesn’t seem to confortable for handheld, you still will need some support, none like the EX-3, what a beatiful design!…
Philip, you are official like a NFL’s ref’s whistle. Thanks for informing us. This camera looks to be serious and I am looking forward to your review.
Peace bro.
That’s pretty impressive Phillip, now is that banding mostly due to the AVCHD or the Vimeo compression?
I downloaded the MP4 and I can still see banding and pretty much a plethora of digital cube artifacts. NeatVideo can clean them up good but it’s still so far from ideal!
The h264 and the vimeo compression
I know I can’t make any true judgments by the compression on vimeo, but… wow looks great.
I know it’s all about how well it works, and so far not too bad.
But it sure is an ugly camera…
Would canon lenses be compatible with the mount if I were to buy an adapter?