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Edit. I have just checked out the just announced micro four thirds version at IBC. Looks great but it’s passive so no iris control through the camera or IS. You need a manual lens like the Voigtlanders.

The good news is with a M43 mount you can put on any lens with easily available adaptors for PL, M, Nikon, Canon. C mount (make sure they cover sensor). It’s a much more flexible camera lens wise and makes more sense than the EF version here to be honest!

I am currently sitting in a hotel room in Amsterdam for IBC finishing the edit of the BlackMagic Cinema Camera. It has been a mammoth task, making sure I cover as much as I can, pros and cons…I haven’t reviewed Resolve as I am still so new to it but it seems incredible considering it comes free, although the lite version does most of what you need and that is free for all on the Blackmagic site to download…

Without a doubt I have missed a few things, nature of the beast, also much of what I cover will change with firmware updates…also remember this is just my opinion and take it as such!

The review is a whopping 45 minutes long. Sorry it’s so long but so much to cover and to be honest if you are thinking of spending $3k on a camera 45 minutes is not much of an investment…but PLEASE do not purchase on my review alone. Check out Vincent LaForet’s one here and many others.

Remember that this is just a camera. No need for fan boy rants or disrespectfulness in comments. If I see them in the moderation queue I will delete them. This camera is just another tool for us to use. Is the best tool for you? Only you can decided, obviously it’s not the best camera in the world…how can it be for such a low price…but it is incredibly impressive. I for one will continue to use my C300 for the bulk of my work as the workflow is way faster, the image super sharp and the dynamic range just a stop less than this camera. It isn’t raw though or prores HQ…but as most of my work is documentary work the C300 is by far the best choice for me…yes for me…It is an expensive camera and way out of the budget of many. This camera brings huge quality to the lower end of the market, something which can only be a good thing. The big boys will see this, see the incredible features on offer and will HAVE to respond…

Review footage and Dungeness footage graded in Magic Bullet Colorista II and Looks available below with 20% using code bloom 20. Finland footage graded in Resolve

Music is once again from the brilliant Music Bed

 

Dungeness shot on the Blackmagic Design Cinema Camera from Philip Bloom on Vimeo.

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Zacuto Rigs for the Blackmagic Camera from Steve Weiss on Vimeo.

So now you have watched the review here are a few summary points…

THE GOOD

Price…it’s a bargain!

Comes with Resolve and UltraScopes

Image is very filmic

13 stop dynamic range

Raw and ProRes both terrific

Feels solid

Micro four thirds mount makes more sense

Image responds super well to sharpening in post if desired. Image itself is nice and filmic but I added +17 in premiere to footage in review to bring out the detail

The Bad

Canon lens mount not ideal for this size sensor

Micro four thirds mount is passive  so no iris control

Bad rolling shutter issues, not as bad as DSRLS but worse than FS100/ C300

Terrible ergonomics

Needs a rig

Screen too reflective (fixable with same stuff you use on iPad)

Cinema DNG eats up a lot of SSD space

Needs Cinemform RAW. Uncompressed raw Cinema DNG is overkill and not needed. Please license!

No XLRs, 1/4 inch jacks

No Phantom Power

No meters on screen (firmware fixable?)

No exposure aids other than zebras (firmware fixable?)

Low light good but not great

No IS support currently (firmware fixable?)

No F-Stop display on screen (firmware fixable?)

No HDMI

Pink highlights in ProRes currently. (firmware fixable?)

KIT USED ON BLACKMAGIC CAMERA

24mm Samyang Cine F1.4

35mm Zeiss ZF F1.4

Canon 70-200mm F4

Sigma 8-16mm F4.5

Tokina 11-16 F2.8 (just in Finland)

Heliopan Variable ND filter

Miller DS20

Miller Compass 20

Kessler Bloom Black Signature Pocket Dolly

KIT USED ON BTS C300

24-105 Canon F4 IS

17-55 Canon F2.8

Sanken COS11

Sony UWP wireless

Miller Compass 20

PROS AND CONS

So, although the cons list is longer, most of these are niggles whereas the pro list is shorter but massive plusses there. I hope you have watched the review, it covers all this so much better and in way more detail!

Night filming in Helsinki. Miller Compass 20. 70-200mm F4 (wish I had 2.8 on me!)

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Handheld with Samyang 24mm F1.4. Heliopan Variable ND filter, Zacuto Targer Shooter

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With the lovely Sarah Estela who shot all the C300 footage for the review.

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Getting skin tones…very very white skin tones!!

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The camera got a lot of looks from people as it’s so unique looking

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Filming in Dungeness in Kent

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Getting a wide with the Sigma 8-16mm

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The brand new Black Bloom Signature Edition Kessler Pocket Dolly Mini

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  1. Ervani says:

    Philip two questions: Did you do some tests with DNxHD? About the sensor size: Will it give some nice DOF when you shoot a portrait? There is some very nice shallow DOF in this sample film but most of them is short focus range footage. Hungry for more footage.

    1. BMD has said DNxHD is not included in the current BMCC firmware, but will be included in a future free firmware update. Since DNxHD is listed in the camera specs, this seems certain.

  2. angelcastro says:

    It looks great, great job, hopefully be available soon, THANKS :-)

  3. Tim says:

    Hi Philip,
    it’s really great that you are doing this review of the BMCC. I guess you know that there are many people out there who are eagerly waiting for this.
    I have been quietly following your blog for about one year, but now it’s the time for me to say thank you! I have learned so much. Your positive attitude, your work and the advice you give is truly inspiring and quite often it’s entertaining too :-)
    By the way the quality of the images from the BMCC is awesome. If that was “just” ProRes, I wonder what one can do with raw. Looking forward to your review.
    Kind regards
    Tim

    1. ProRes 422 HQ, although not nearly as awesome as CinemaDNG, is an amazing codec. In fact, ProRes 422 HQ is the main reason I placed a pre-order for a BMCC immediately after it was announced in mid-April.

      ProRes 422 HQ is an industrial-strength codec, used in post-production throughout the world. Together with AVID DNxHD it’s one of the two most popular professional codecs in use. Until now, ProRes 422 HQ as an acquisition format was relatively costly, typically requiring an Alexa or use of an outboard recorder. Yet ProRes 422 HQ doesn’t require new or expensive Mac/Win hardware or software to edit.

      Do I wish the BMCC had a few more features or bit more improved performance? Sure. But based on BMD’s well-deserved reputation for designing relatively low-cost, state of the art, high-quality video devices, I figured they could do a first class job designing a very good, basic “cinema camera” for <$3K US. It appears I was correct, but it's all down to BMD. Cheers.

  4. Coilworks says:

    Awesome video regardless of the camera. Great shots. Completely forgot about the small sensor size after watching this. This goes to prove yet once more that tools are just tools, except this one is pretty cheap and delivers 2.5k raw files. Looking forward to watching your review!

  5. jonathanryanfilms says:

    I always love your choice in music. It’s one of the reasons I always enjoy your reviews. Using neptune in this, lifts it to a completely different level. It takes relatively ordinary things (shot superb), and makes the viewer feel like there is some bigger meaning to it. Can’t wait for the review!

    1. John M. says:

      Oddly enough, Jonathan, I had to turn the audio down/off in sections because of the music. Too busy and distracting for me while Phil was speaking. (But I did discover you can read Phil’s lips perfectly!)

      Anyway, thanks, PB, for your continued efforts in educating the community. Great stuff as usual.

      1. Philip Bloom says:

        yeah…maybe a bit loud…

    2. John M. says:

      My Bad. You were talking about Holst in the Dungeness piece, not the review. Yes, that’s lovely.

  6. Thomas Larang says:

    Hi Philip,

    What I am really interrested in is the rolling shutter. How much does the image skew?

    The sharpness of the image is just mindblowing. Thanks for sharing footage with some sort of talent behind the camera. Most videos so far has been quite badly framed, color corrected or lots of compression for the web.

    Thanks
    /Thomas Läräng, Uppsala, Sweden

    1. aombk says:

      i hope this review tests/compares the rolling shutter and not just mention it or even ignore it like all the other reviews i have seen so far.

      i dont understand how most users and reviewers ignore rolling shutter and how manufacturers get away with it.
      its an important aspect of the sensor and it can easily be regarded as a major flaw for various situations and shooting styles.

    2. Philip mentions above that in his opinion the BMCC rolling shutter is better than DSLRs but not as good as CMOS sensor cameras which cost >2 times as much. In my book, that sounds quite good and is about as expected.

      Technology isn’t free, and CMOS rolling shutter performance is generally relative to price. What to do? Most important: Stabilize CMOS cameras as much as possible. It also helps to use shorter focal length lenses when possible. Additional tips for working with CMOS cameras in this video by Panasonic:
      http://vimeo.com/5348383

      1. Alexander says:

        One thing to consider is Post. It you have a shot that has rolling shutter issues you can use Foundry’s Rolling shutter plugin in After Effects to fix the shot, however in a DSLR type camera with a 1080 maximum image you have to resort to cropping and scaling the image up (so your footage gets soft) or down convert the project to 720 (I don’t have to explain why this is bad). With the Black Magic recording at 2.5K you have more headroom for cropping the image without losing resolution. The same applies to image stabilization!

        In my opinion the 2.5K resolution is one of the more understated features that open a lot of possibilities for post currently unavailable to the indie film maker. This is what it means to me: Better camera tracking, better options for adding matte paintings, better roto/painting (yep, easier to paint out that cup that one of the pa’s left in the background), better greenscreen keys, easier to fix things like rolling shutter and shaky camera. Not to mention the color latitude that you get when taking the time to color correct your footage right not just doing a 1 light type color correction. With Resolve included you have a very powerful tool to make the most out of your footage.

        My .02

  7. Scott Thomas says:

    Got to say that with the shape of the camera you really should have a “Cotton Imperial Triple” black camera cloth over your head in this photo. Very 1900’s. Looking forward to the review.

  8. Brad Bell says:

    Well that’s just gobsmacking – WOW! That’s just a whole other level of ‘cinematic.’ That makes HDSLRs look like photography cameras. I can’t stop smiling. The skies are 3 dimensional and freakishly realistic. It makes HDR look like a mardi gras dancer. That’s the best movie I’ve seen in years!!

  9. umardilse says:

    Hi philip

    I’m big fan of your work. Just want to know on top picture with BMC you used ZE lens there is filter front on ZE lens please let me know the name of that.

    I m waiting your full review about BMC.
    Thanks

  10. rabyoung says:

    Mr. Philip,

    Thanks, Can’t wait for your review. This is great.

  11. Alex says:

    Ive been waiting so long to see you work your magic with this camera. I was very excited to see this up tonight. thank you for all your insights!

  12. bjorneerkes says:

    AMAZING IMAGES! Hope to see you at IBC and talk about this camera… Wishful thinking… ;)

  13. Edan Cohen says:

    Everything looks good in your hands, sir — I bet you could make a Hi-8 camera look respectable.

  14. R Scott says:

    Thank you.
    Looking forward to your review.
    Be well.

  15. Will says:

    I immediately thought, “wow this looks like his alexa film”. I like the grey sky and rocks, gives it a nice depressing feel.

  16. Will says:

    Also, how do you handle storage of your clips? Do you have a raid? Or do you just buy a ton of external drives? I’m having trouble with this. I assume that the BMC will take a lot of space. :D

    1. Although it’s true the BMCC’s uncompressed 12-bit 2.5K RAW CinemaDNG footage requires 5 megaBYTES per frame for recording & storage, note that this video by Philip was shot using the BMCC’s fantastic compressed 10-bit 1080p ProRes 422 HQ recording format which requires 1/5th as much media & storage space (@220 megaBITS per second) compared to CinemaDNG.

      ProRes 422 HQ is workable even on somewhat older Mac & Windows computers and slower hard drives and older editing software. New fast computers, drives & software are good, too, because they make your work go faster in general, but not strictly required.

      nd as you can see, the BMCC’s ProRes 422 HQ recordings can look really great. ProRes 422 HQ can record higher quality video than about 99% of all other video cameras; not an exageration. Gets down to the skill of the shooter and the cameras’ other features and how they’re used. Cheers.

      1. Will says:

        That didn’t answer my question at all. I need a place to store my 5d footage as I have filled my 1 TB hard drive. Thanks for the response though. Informative.

        1. Philip Bloom says:

          what exactly are you asking?

          1. Will says:

            Where do you store your out-of-camera clips after you have edited a piece and it is exported. External HDs, RAID, Thumbdrives, Dropbox *sarcasm*? I have been using External HDs and it is a pain in the ass. Especially when they go corrupt. Any suggestions?

          2. I think he’s just asking what storage solution(s) do you use.

        2. 3TB 7200rpm SATA-3 bare hard drives now sell for less than $140 US. Next month the price will probably be less, and so forth.

          5400rpm HDDs cost even less and are fast enough for ProRes 422 HQ.

          True, HDDs aren’t free, but generally speaking the cost of storage for BMCC ProRes 422 HQ isn’t typically a barrier, unless one literally has no funds. That’s cool.

          As Philip discusses in his review, BMCC CinemaDNG footage requires 5 times as much storage, and it must be configured as a fast RAID. Cost effective for some, but much more expensive than working with ProRes 422 HQ.

          Just an FYI. Cheers.

        3. RubenKremer says:

          What you’re looking for is a more secure storage solution I guess. A RAID would do, but if you shoot on commercial projects a RAID alone won’t be good enough. RAIDs can (and will) fail, or your system can simply get stolen, or perhaps a fire will ruin it.

          I keep my files save locally on a RAID, and I have a external copy of this RAID – which is updated weekly and stored offsite. Archived projects are moved to external drives, one copy kept ‘here’ and a mirror of that drive offsite.

          I believe mr. Bloom’s storage workflow is somewhat similar. Hope this helped.

          1. Will says:

            Thanks everyone. I dont have a lot of money to spend as I spent it all on my camera. I will look into maybe getting a drobo or something like it. I like the idea of the 3 TB drives. I don’t want to spend more than $800-$1200. Its always hard to justify buying expensive storage when I could just as easily put that money towards more gear. I have just been shooting so much that I am filling all of my space.

            1. Philip Bloom says:

              storage is a massive issue with this camera unfortunately. no simple solution. LOTS of storage needed

              1. For the feature film I mentionned on which I’ll be media manager (or workflow manager don’t know how to call it !)
                I’ll need 60 TB of storage or 20 TBx3 (they don’t sell 16 TB fibre channel servers) to store all the Cinema DNG files plus to have some spare for the Proxies. That does not take in account sound files and others stuff needed for post production. And all that is an approximation based on the total time the director is planning to shoot and doesn’t take in account fi we have multiple angles at one time…
                So yeah, LOT of storage !

                1. benmcconnel says:

                  Have a look at LTO tape storage solutions for archiving.

                  “A single $50 LTO4 tape can store 800GB of uncompressed video-that’s 26 whopping hours of 720/24p video from a Panasonic P2 camera, 38 hours of 1080/24p footage from a Sony EX3, or nearly 8 hours of 4K footage from a RED camera.
                  An LTO4 tape lasts about 30 years in normal storage conditions (ie, don’t leave it in your trunk indefinitely).
                  Some LTO4 drives can read/write data up to 120MBps-ie, much faster than reading/writing to a conventional SATA hard drive – so incremental backups go in a hurry.”

                  1. Will says:

                    Interesting concept. I like it. Only problem is that readers are $1000+. This is definitely an option though. Thank you. This is a no brainer if you get a BMC. Its actually 3tb for $80. I don’t need it on demand so this looks like it may work. Would be cool to find a thunderbolt one. Are they rewritable?

  17. sen9171nathan says:

    Wow…..ok. So what you have there is a pre release version?
    (I think you might already have but just incase) _Please do also include the recommended lenses for this camera as part of your review…..hope to see it soon sir.

  18. Jason Drake says:

    Finally some compelling BlackMagic Cinema Camera footage. Thank you, Philip! This looks fantastic. I’m looking forward to the review.

  19. ollyando says:

    Getting very excited about this camera, Even more than all the new canon models coming out. Great workflow, dynamic range, price point, thunderbolt, ssd. Coming from the new school of dslr film making this seems like the next step up. Only gripe is the form factor and the built in battery (very apple) which I think could be a bit better, but overall it looks like another game changer.

    1. Most professional video cameras use external batteries & power systems. The BMCC’s wonderful, built-in 90-min. uninterruptible power supply works like a modern laptop or smartphone.

      With the BMCC’s built-in battery you can use it, charge it, or use most any external 12-30 VDC power source without giving it too much thought. It’s a huge convenience feature. (Although I agree with Philip that the “batt time remaining” display should be improved!)

      Another example of a BMCC kick *ss feature reinterpreted as a “limitation”. Just for fun see:
      http://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=660

      Cheers!

      1. RadicalTommy says:

        Do you work for BMD or what?!

        1. Philip Bloom says:

          why on earth would you ask that?

  20. Ansel says:

    Hi Philip,

    The footage looks great!

    We’re gearing up to shot a low budget feature film. As far as A cameras go, would you pick the BMC over a Canon 5D III? I know you’re still testing it out. But would just like to get your thoughts.

    We already own a couple of Canon DSLRs.

    Thanks.

  21. carlosdurm says:

    It looks great!

  22. hemmakearney says:

    This is fantastic! I can’t wait for it to come out… And even better, can’t wait for it to have higher frame rates in the next version.. maybe?..

  23. RockRanitzky says:

    First let me say Philip that you´re a competent and humorous person. It´s always great fun watching your reports. The BMC produces a kind of muddy picture. If this should be film-look, O.K.. I´m anxious to what you are thinking about this camera, compared to e.g. a Sony F3.

    1. This Vimeo download is very compressed (8-bit 1080p 4:2:0 h.264 @ <10 megabits/sec, probably ~5 mbs), so it will display far far less resolution and quite a lot of motion artifacts & noise compared to the camera-original ProRes 422 HQ footage (10-bit 1080p 4:2:2).

      Also, be sure you're viewing the Vimeo version of the file using Vimeo's "HD" button, otherwise it is downgraded further.

      1. Alexander says:

        RockRanitzky it is my understanding that the film color setting on the camera uses a log gamma curve to record the image and while the image looks like crap on the screen it provides more color latitude than the Video setting (Rec 709) when properly color corrected in post.

  24. stanislaw says:

    Very interesting concept. I like a simplicity of design but looking on your comfy-uncomfy position makes me wonder if you missed a built-in hinged display. I would.

    1. I agree that a free-angle rotating LCD is a great thing to have on a video camera. It’s one of my favorite features on my GH1 & GH2 and other cameras I use.

      However, chances are very good that if the BMCC 5″ touchscreen display could be rotated it would probably increase the camera’s cost a not-inconsiderable amount. I’m not saying this makes it a bad idea, or an over-riding reason not to do it, but BMD has said that keeping the camera’s cost down without it being a “cheap” plastic cam — and while making it easy to record very high-quality video — were their primary goals with the camera.

      In fact, I think just about _every_ aspect of the BMCC’s physical design, shape, materials & GUI has to do with cost, simplicity and video quality. Based on the state of the art technology BMD had available to them 2 years ago when they began designing the camera, the result was almost guaranteed to “look” more or less like the BMCC we see today.

      I think the BMCC is very nice in that regard. It’s very much a form follows function device, with an emphasis on quality, simplicity, and relatively low cost.

  25. Drew Collins says:

    I have been waiting for this ever since the camera was announced!

  26. Duane Shrode says:

    Beautiful Phil… but curious, I see cropmarks in your timeline but this appears to be cropped – w/out crop marks… how’d you pull that off?

  27. Giedrius says:

    Hi Philip, can you tell my what kind of ND filters you use?

  28. It is funny that you mention the Log-C of the Alexa as to my eyes, this camera is quite an Alexa Junior/Mini/Nano/Hobbit !
    (I can seriously see productions using the BMC for tight spaces and some action stuff where their Alexa can’t fit because of its bigger size… And as I said on Twitter, I might be Media Manager on a full length feature film that will be shot entirely on BMC ! [it depends of the shooting dates and if the local Apple Store hires me ’cause I need to make some money and make my editor/colorist job a part time job for a while])

  29. Kevin Evans says:

    Nice stuff Philip… EAGERLY waiting for all the other goodies that you are about to load… Thanks again for sharing with us… Cheers

  30. Zach_Ashcraft says:

    I am not sure why, but I am not enjoying the image out of this camera. It looks very gritty to me. Maybe thats just the subject matter of the video. Do I see some aliasing in the image as well? There appears to be some on the wood of the boat, and on some of the telephone lines. Can’t tell if its an image issue or if thats just how the objects actually look. Looking forward to the review

  31. haukia says:

    Hi! I’ve been a long time follower of your blog, and it’s nice to see you’ve been to Helsinki (my hometown)! May I ask, what were you doing there and hod did you like it?

  32. Thomas Larang says:

    By the way, how about this prime lens:

    http://www.polytec.com/fileadmin/user_uploads/Products/Kameras_und_Zubehoer/Objektive/Documents/Kowa_XC_PLogo.pdf

    It’s C-mount, image circle of a four thirds camera and quite fast at f 1:2.0. Don’t know the price of it though. C-mount to EF adapters are available at ebay…

  33. PeterAnswers says:

    Hey Phillip, this looks amazing, even in the Vimeo HD mode, it looks breathtaking. Colour and sharpness are splendid, very film-like. The music and montage are stunning too. I did see differences in the sharpness between shots, I’m guessing it might have to do with the lenses. Which lenses did you find to be more useful and which gave the best results on the shots?

  34. mjhardin says:

    “Philip Bloom as “Philip Bloom” puts Mr. Bloom in the role he was born to play.”

    Your reviews are incredibly valuable. Thank you.

  35. visualmed says:

    absolutely great demonstration about this camera.. no much to tell the image quality and 2.5k raw ..film look dynamic range all this is a really really good pros but still are many of cons as you said ..in my opinion I will be waiting for the new version … thanks Phil

  36. Hans says:

    My comments are getting boring, not you. Another great review, thanks! Maybe Polaroid glasses would help reducing the reflectiveness of the screen?

  37. jeneyakos says:

    Dear Philip,

    Really thank for the review. I would interested what you think would be possible to use any super16 mm lens on it? Physically would that be possible to mount with an adapter, and what you think how would that perform? We should make it clear its a 16mm camera (sadly with a Canon EF mount), and i didn’t read or hear from any review yet the idea using original 16mm lenses like this one: http://www.visualproducts.com/storeProductDetail03.asp?productID=1551&Cat=8&Cat2=20&Cat3=28

    Thanks for your answer and best wishes!

    1. Most lenses designed to cover S16 will vignette badly on the larger BMCC sensor, even if you could figure out a way to mount the lens. Refer to this diagram:
      http://prolost.com/storage/post-images/sensors_003_BMD-context.png?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1345660764902

      1. jeneyakos says:

        Yes you are right… So no perfect lens for BMCC what would fit perfectly to this sensor?

  38. Andy says:

    Cracking review, been waiting for this like everyone else. Really surprised about some of the limitations, but no doubt updates or v2 may just be too good to miss. What’s the outro music by the way?! Lovely..

  39. armannd says:

    Everything you’ve said is exactly what I was thinking.

    I really, really hope they put a S35 sensor in their next camera. If they also make the screen more usable and remove the dependency on 3rd party accessories it would literally make Canon, Sony and Panasonic sh*t themselves and force them to seriously step up their game.

    1. I’m certain the BMCC has already caused other camera manufacturers, including new ones we may not have heard of yet, to rethink some of their product design plans. They’ve had since NAB in April to start thinking.

      Meanwhile, lots of folks will use their BMCCs (once they get them!) very profitably. They won’t be waiting for a bigger sensor. The makers of “Slumdog Millionaire” and “Avatar” (just to name 2) didn’t allow 2/3″ video camera or S16 technology to stand between them and successful filmmaking.

      As for the need for 3rd party accessories, the BMCC really isn’t different in this regard compared to other removable lens cameras used professionally. How much gear you prefer to throw at a production will vary depending on the needs of the production and budget. As Philip shows, a BMCC is ready to go with only the addition of a lens & an SSD drive, and probably a mic. Period. Everything else (ND filters, tripod, external batts, etc.) is depends on what you want to shoot & your budget. Same as with all cams. Except those other cams don’t include the BMCC’s features & software bundle for anywhere near $3K US. That’s the whole point.

      So, yeah, the other cam companies have taken notice. Believe me. I’m mostly interested in seeing what the new “upstarts” will do. That’s where the real fun will come from. Meanwhile I hope my BMCC arrives _soon_. Cheers.

    2. Max Gibson says:

      s35 sensor will jack up the cost of camera and it becomes another Scarlet or C300 at $15000 US.
      All they had/have to do is trash the stupid,useless, un-functional lens controls through the LCD and put a generic lens mount for accepting m4/3 lenses on it. Then they could have owned a large segment of camera market for a long time around the world.

  40. touillette75 says:

    Hello Phillip-

    After watching the review I am not sure why anyone would want such a camera? It seems that the $3,000.00 would be better spent on a GH2, AF100, D800, 5d MKII, or spend $500 more for the MKIII. I understand the allure of having more dynamic range to work in post. But wouldn’t the aforementioned cameras in some cases give you a better quality image. I am just scratching my head right now wondering who would buy this camera?

    1. A digital camera isn’t just sensor or just codec or just form factor. It’s a whole thing.
      While an AF101 has a more practical form factor than a Blackmagic camera, it has less dynamic range and a less good codec onboard. There is no perfect camera. Especially in this price bracket. (on a technical point of view, the Sony F65 is to me the best camera BUT it is REALLY expansive and it is an insane workflow)

      The Blackmagic Camera is, I think, for two kinds of filmmakers :
      A) those who love 16mm film but want to go digital

      B) those who cannot afford more than a DSLR, who might want a DSLR (for video only I mean) but who also want a better onboard compression solution.

      IF the camera can accept a PL mount adapter, you can find used 16mm lenses and have a blast with it.
      It’s like the Ikonoskop I think. It’s for a niche of people who want to buy a camera for a really artistic and specific point of view instead of for a specs point of view.

    2. I think you may need to re-watch Philip’s review and download his compressed sample footage again.

      It’s very clear that Philip mostly _loves_ the camera and considers it a great value for people who need its capabilities. Of course, there’s not 1 perfect camera for all productions, and your personal preference may lie elsewhere. That’s cool.

      But Philip really really likes more about the BMCC than he dislikes about it, and says several times it’s a bargain at $3K US. Cheers.

    3. This camera can be used for broadcast with its internal codec. Those others cannot. Offloading footage from ssd’s is WAAAY faster. Think of the downtime saved during a production day. The raw codec is superior for effects compositing chroma key etc. Shoot to edit time skips an entire step without having to transcode the internal compressed codecs. So i would think broadcasters would buy it, guys into green screen shoots would buy it and anyone who wants a RED Scarlet in a better priced option that doesn’t need it for slow motion would buy it.

      1. Philip Bloom says:

        damn tricky camera for everyday use though!

  41. carlosdurm says:

    Philip I love your work, it´s just amazing. Well I was thinking that I could get this camera with a 5d mark ii Insted of the fs 100. I think that could be a good team. Well, I will need to read and think more about it, but thanks for this review!!

  42. Damon Roger says:

    Hi Philip,

    Thank you for so generously sharing your experience and time on this detailed review.

    Cheers

  43. Max Gibson says:

    Thank you Mr Bloom. Wonderful review as usual. Most of my work happened to be in the wider FOV. It’s a shame that such powerhouse camera turns so limited on the wide angle side. Whomever decided the EF mount on such small imager then made the lens mount as a part of body structure should be considered an Al-Aueda insurgent in BMD.
    I wonder who will be the first to put the hacksaw on that stupid cone to shorten it and then epoxy a Micro4/3 mount on to turn the camera to how it should’ve been in the first place.
    The noble idea of slapping a lens on a RAW shooting box got derailed somewhere ( by insurgents perhaps ) by the temptation of gimmicky lens controls from the LCD screen.

    1. Hot Rod Cameras is likely to be one of the first reputable companies to sell a hardware-modified BMCC with an alternate lens mount. Other companies will, too.:
      http://www.hotrodcameras.com

      Your “glass half empty” comments are one reason I wrote the following humorous post about re-interpretting actual kick *ss BMCC features as “limitations”:
      http://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=660

      Cheers. :-)

      1. Max Gibson says:

        good fun Peter on that writing, There are a lot to be said about all you are pointing out. Then the fun will turn to yet another knife fight in the back of the club. That said, can not resist to bring one out of the fun pack though:
        You say ( amongst many other fun things ) :

        ” … The BMCC’s sensor is “only” more than twice as big as the ones used to shoot many popular films, including “Slumdog Millionaire” and “Avatar”, the latter having earned >$2.75 billion and counting! ”

        Ahhhahha good one ! Really Funny especially when you consider on those cameras they design the body in a funny way that you can mount a wide range of lenses through adapters. I guess in this one joke is on BMD.
        Yes, I do believe that comedy is nothing but tragedy with a good timing. Unfortunately this one is only a tragedy.

        Let’s just admit that the choice of mount was a mistake and it should’ve been micro4/3rd.

        Thank you for reminding me about Slumdog Millioner. I’m going to rent it tonight and wonder how they shot all those beatiful vistas on such small sensor.

  44. semyon60 says:

    Very nice! thank you

  45. Ervani says:

    Thank for the review: it confirmed some of my doubt. This camera will surely work for some people but it will not fit my workflow. Let’s hope BM will bring some improvements with the firmware.

    Additional: the form factor, the camera is big and I think it will catch a lot of wind. In combination with the field of view (long lens) I think it will give some nervous shots. About the FOV, that was one of the catchy things in the Fibland shots… you can see the Long Focal Length FOV and I like that FOV for some situations. That’s what I miss on my 5D: the very long lens option… working with leica primes my ongest focal length is 200mm… 400+ will be very nice for some situations. And that brings me to my conclusion: no camera is perfect and I will always dream of a Alexa with a 5D prize tag or a 5D + BMCC + etc etc…

    1. The BMCC weighs 1.7 kg / 3.75 lb, considerably heavier than most DSLRs.

      It’s not more prone to wind shaking it compared to most lighter-weight cams.

      I should add your perspective to my list of BMCC features reinterpreted as “limitations”. Thank you for that. Cheers. :-)

  46. Really great review and really honest one.

    It really helps me to put things in perspective. Here are some questions :
    – How does the camera record audio when shooting RAW ? Since it is an images sequence, where does it put audio ? Into a separate BWF/WAV file ?
    – About metadatas, Blackmagic claims that you can tell the camera to do automatic updates of takes numbers etc… True ?
    – Is the camera fan noisy ?

    So for now, IF I had the money to buy the camera (and I mean with a small rig and some lenses and one or two SSDs… Let’s say if I had 10K €… Cause no, change rates does not apply when you buy stuff in France : 3000$ are 3000€) I would REALLY hesitate to buy the camera. The sensor size is mostly good for me BUT the difficulty to get a wide angle shot is quite a pain in the ass I think. And without any roadmap concerning the possibilities and dates for future firmware updates, it is a bit difficult and honestly seems unsecure to me to buy this camera…
    … BUT it does ProRes422HQ and RAW for 3K$ !… Seems to be a freakin’ catch phrase for a B movie.

    I’m a bit of a curious beast. I’m a professional editor/color grader (and VFX Artist) but since my cinema school had two years of “general cinema classes” I have enough skills to be an indie 90% pro director… (but I’m clearly not a good DP lol) And I’m a geek too. So I look to cameras from different point of views. I LOVE BIG sensors because it’s my tastes. The more shallow depth of field, the more I feel I have creative options (I really don’t need 3D. Just a good old 35mm sensor and a very fast lens !). But I am also a codec freak and I really love to have options for color grading (I DO love color grading). So… That Blackmagic offers me a fairly decent amount of shallow depth (capabilities ! Sometimes, a sharp depth of field is useful too^^) but a crazy, I mean CRA-ZY compression solution ! And I’m not even speaking of the Cinema DNG format. The ProRes 422HQ with the Log curve is nice for me. RAW is a lovely bonus.
    So for now it seems really tempting BUT really unsecure so… I don’t know. I can’t wait to see footage out of the C100 to compare how much I could do with the 4:2:0 AVC codec with Canon Log (obviously less but it has built in NDs, a form factor more easy to work with, a bigger sensor blablabla).

    I’m really wondering now what is Panasonic doing ?! They saw Sony’s and Canon’s answer to the AF101, and now there is a Blackmagic Camera to the market. Panasonic has a really good codec on their high end cameras : AVC-Intra100 (which, basically, is like a ProRes422 quality I think). Why don’t they bring a new m4/3 camera into their range ? I mean, AF101 is around 4500€. If there was an AVC-100 (on P2 or SSD) version of the AF101, with a slighly better dynamic range (let’s say 12 stops…) or even with the exact same sensor for less than 8000€, Panasonic would be king of the hill.

    Anyway, the only thing that seems sure for now on is that Blackmagic came to the game walls to the wall and it seems that the competition will get harder and that we might start to see better codec solutions than H264/AVCHD (which are nice, I just said better) in the lower price brackets. And that is a good thing.
    By the way : 3000$ !!!!

  47. Jacana Productions says:

    What about Ultrascope ???? Plug in laptop TB port then you get these great scopes ???? Did you try this?

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      you tried walking around shooting one man band with a laptop as your exposure gauge?

      1. As you said at the end of your review : it is really made for secured shooting like fictionnal stuff (shorts, series, feature films), commercials and music videos where you have the computer (not too far from the camera because I think the only Thunderbolt cable available right now is not very long) to monitor everything. By the way : good luck for handheld action stuff if you have to have the camera assistant running behind you with a computer… lol

        For VFX and green screen stuff, as you said (bis) : great little camera ! (if only I had this one last year on a shoot… It would have saved me DAYS of roto in After Effects !)

      2. Philip: Clearly you’re not trying hard enough. Please endeavor to do more next time. Cheers. ;-)

        And, yes, JC: UltraScope & MediaExpress look to be powerful BMCC features when applied appropriately. Cheers.

        1. Max Gibson says:

          What are you on Peter !!??
          Reduce the sugar or whatever you put in your coffee/tea man !
          These two gentlemen are discussing the possibility ( or lack of it ) of using Ultra scope through TB while shooting a one man band in the great out doors and you tell Phil he is not trying hard enough from the your armchair !!??
          I’m not quite sure if you are making a good case for BMD here. I think you owe Phil an apology !

      3. Jacana Productions says:

        Understand, but I’m still drinking the BM kool aid here and was wondering how this actually worked. Your review actually took a lot of wind out of my sails, damn you PB for your honest reviews ! – looks like it’s an old FS100 or the new GH3 for me :(

  48. gus almonte says:

    Great, well rounded review. The sensor size isn’t an issue for me as I shoot a lot with my GH2 and have grown accustomed to the the crop factor, however the canon mount gives me pause. I can see why they chose it from a business standpoint-this camera seems to be aimed at Canon DSLR shooters. I may wait to see if they come out with a micro 43rds mount and/or a removable battery. Thanks again for the wonderful review!

    1. mike sandiford says:

      They just announced a new model of the camera with a micro 4/3rd mount.

      1. Philip Bloom says:

        Yep it’s in my blog at top! :)

        1. mike sandiford says:

          and when it’s released I expect another 45 minute review!

          1. Philip Bloom says:

            no!!! update coming asap

    2. magic6435 says:

      Well you’re in luck. m43 mount announced this morning :-p

      1. Philip Bloom says:

        I know! Check top of this post!

  49. henry coll says:

    Thanks Philip once again for this comprehensive review.

    This camera is, at the price, a no-brainer. Actually it’s a FREE camera if you think of the software it comes with, and if you recall how much Resolve was just 2 years ago (a quarter of a million), well…
    It’s just mind blowing what BMD has achieved in a few years.

    Your review was very nice, but I’m afraid you left aside the only REAL issue this camera might have: rolling shutter.
    Everything else you mark as negative aspects are really no-issues at all. Those might only be for the cash trapped 550/60D user, but not for everybody else, and certainly not for pros; and believe me, plenty of pros are looking (salivating) at this baby, if only to bring it on set as a B cam along with REDs/ALEXAs. But what about its rolling shutter, is it so bad that will prevent its use?

    You’re right that Canon’s C300 is the best at this moment for broadcast docos (but not for cinema) and if there was a proper servo lens for them they’ll also be great for ENG. On the other hand, for drama, commercials, high-end corporate, green screen, music videos and anything shot under controlled environment, the BMD will displace IMHO every other camera xcept for the ALEXA and EPIC.

    $3k for a 2.5k RAW camera? Gosh, anybody remembers how much a Viper, a D21 or an F35 cost?

    Yes $3k is barebones and it will need a few thousand € to (non-dedicate) configure it properly: a bebop cage+battery, Alphatron EVF, SoundDevices MixPre-D and an ARRI MMB-2. But even then it will still cost around the same as a basic C100 and half that of a C300, while images from this BMD will intercut with ALEXA footage, unlike any other cam below $30k. That is insane.

    As we wait for ours to arrive, please do update your review with a bit of rolling shutter info if you can. Everything else can easily be worked around (if somebody considers those issues a problem, which many of us don’t). Thx again for yor great work.

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      it is mentioned, albeit in text, it’s an issue for sure.

      1. Hey Philip, could you please elaborate a little more on the rolling shutter? I really missed a little bit more info on that! Thanks!

  50. beckeredit says:

    Fantastic review Philip!
    Many thanks for all the great info.

  51. bruno amaral says:

    thanks so much for this review phillip, it really gives a good insight into the camera.

  52. gerald says:

    Fetus Alexa – LOL! :D

    This is the second best review I have seen you done Mr. Blom, (First was still the FS700 one), love the comedic apeal, the cat, and sheer honesty.

    I would have loved to see you dispel some myths about this camera though..like low light..how good (or good enough) is it. And DOF, probably use some F1.2s and blast some faces with it and see shallow the DOF looks like.

    But even with all the fair limitations you mentioned about the camera (majority of which ahve already been firmware fixed )..it just still an amazingly featured camera at that price range..and nothing can match that color science, very very close to an Alexa definitely!

  53. Hi Philip,
    I was wondering if you might agree, that a lot of companies might be forgetting one of the most important aspects of the camera – and that is a viewfinder. Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice to have a good monitor LCD to look at, but really… the thing that really helps camera operators (or me) get into the zone when filming is to look into a viewfinder and really connect with what you are trying to capture, without having to even think about reflections or glare or anything except for what you are filming. And to go even further, the best way to do that is optically. I really wish there was someone who would be able to make this for us. What do you think?

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      That’s why the c300 and c100 are so good! That evf is great!

  54. Dave Dugdale says:

    That was an awesome review! Great job Philip. Maybe one of your best.

  55. Coralio says:

    Philip,

    Blackmagic Design just announced the release of a four thirds version (only passive) of the BMCC in December. I only own a few EF lenses but it would be lovely to have the chance to buy a “cheap” and nice micro 4/3 lens. Do you think it is worth waiting? Or there are already EF-to-micro-4/3 adaptor in the market that I could use in my BMCC EF?

    Thanks a lot for your time!

  56. Hi Philip,

    It looks like the BMCC will actually be available with a Micro Four Thirds (MFT) mount starting in December.

    http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagiccinemacamera/models/

    Great review by the way!

    Michael

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      Yep covered at top of this post!

  57. Bob says:

    Philip, they actually just announced the “Blackmagic Cinema Camera MFT” which is the same camera but it has a micro four thirds mount.

  58. flofifull says:

    Excellent review as always. And it’s very pleasant to watch !
    You have rightly mentioned the advantages and disadvantages of a raw workflow. I’m not an expert, but watching your review, I’d be interested to know what you think about Cineform Raw ?
    Because Cineform RAW 2.5K files are very, very light and fast to play in Premiere. And it works very well with John Brawley’s RAW files on a simple PC. Have you tried it ?

  59. Hi Philip,

    hope to see you in Amsterdam on sunday or monday.
    As you told the crop factor is more than an issue. But I think there is a very good chance to make a big deal with that.
    As you know Sony’s Cinealta 750 & 900 have got almost the same sensor size of BMC and Zeiss and Canon prepared a primes lens series (B4 mount) which start from 4mm.

    http://lenses.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_de/cine_lenses/digi_lenses/digiprime_lenses.html

    This lenses – which are amazing for digital cinema – are now quite fancy because 750&900 are going to die (or they are already), and I think you can find the whole series for a bunch of money either to buy or rent.
    With this adapter:

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/854164-REG/MTF_Services_Ltd_MTB4CANEF_B4_2_3_to_CANON.html

    you can mount those lenses on the BMC.

    Ok, I know it could sound a bit crazy, but as when the HDSLR came to market and all the filmmakers went to their grandfather’s mansard and discovered their old distangon sets to use, now a new market of lenses could come back to life. And I’m not only talking about the Digiprimes’ one but also all the 16 and s16mm lenses which, using an adapter, could be a workaround to the BMC’s crop factor.

    What do you think about this?
    Thanks.
    Piero

  60. TimFok says:

    Great review, as per usual.

    Is that a 70-200mm desk lamp?!

  61. jamerikaner says:

    PB
    Thanks for another great review.

    I watched the highest resolution copy of Dungeness on my 1080 60″ plasma and it looked fantastic.

    I think the approach of building a cost effective camera that is simply “brains only” can make sense. But if they’re going to do it, then go all the way. Make it as simple and as modifiable as possible without obliterating the price point. Let the user build it as he or she needs. Give us options (with or without 3rd party support) to add: CF and SD compressed recording, uncompressed outs for external recorders, pro audio recording in camera, interchangeable lens mounts, removable batteries, firmware hacks, etc, etc.

    I’m personally okay with a smaller sensor if the price justifies it. Sensor quality has taken leaps and bounds in recent years. I hope we are approaching an era where cinematographers will pick a sensor like film, for it’s unique capturing qualities.

    Thanks again.

  62. larryboatright says:

    Hey Philip, fantastic review!
    You’ve probably seen this already but in case you haven’t, I received an email from Blackmagic this morning announcing new products, and the first on the list: the Blackmagic Cinema Camera MFT! It seems they will be shipping the BMCC with MFT mount in December.

    Here’s the copy from the email…

    Blackmagic Cinema Camera MFT

    Since the Blackmagic Cinema Camera was announced we have been overwhelmed by the fantastic response. We have also been extremely happy with the response to the first shipments and have already seen some wonderful work done on them.

    We started shipping a few weeks ago, however the Cinema Camera is a highly advanced piece of equipment and it uses a large amount of high quality precision parts to build it. Some components are coming into our factory slower than we expected and this has caused the manufacturing of the cameras to slow.

    We expect to have this sorted out over the next few weeks and then can speed up and get more cameras delivered. In the mean time, our engineering has not been slowed down at all and we are continuing to develop the next software update with new features for release very soon.

    We have also been working on a Passive Micro Four Thirds model of the camera. People have been asking for this as there are a lot of nice high end manually operated MFT lenses on the market, and the MFT mount can also be easily adapted to PL and other lens mounts using third party adapters.

    The new Blackmagic Cinema Camera MFT is expected to ship in December, and will be the same price as the original model. It’s identical in features as they are both the same camera, just with different lens mounts. The price will also be the same at $2,995. We will be working with our dealers to help people change their orders if they want.

    http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagiccinemacamera/

    1. larryboatright says:

      Looks like the BM website has been updated to reflect this now as well.

  63. derekhillier says:

    Fantastic review Philip I like your Dungeness footage I shot there a couple of months back

    https://vimeo.com/39046516

  64. akaras says:

    Definitely a step in the right direction. Looks like there are more cons than pros here but I still love the camera. I’ve been thinking about getting the Scarlet for sometime for our corporate work but I may have to go this route. Philip, since you’ve used them all how does the Image quality compare to the Epic, C300 and the F700?

  65. gerald says:

    HOLY SHIT!!! M4/3 mount for the BMCC OFICIAL!!!! http://johnbrawley.wordpress.com/2012/09/07/blackmagic-change-it-up-with-a-passive-m43-mount/

    I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW FAST BLACKMAGIC REACTS TO CUSTOMER FEEDBACK!!! AMAZING!!! I wouldnt be surprised if 1080p 60p is already being tested by JB right now!!! And a Super35 version already being tested too!!!! Wooot to Blackmagic!!!

  66. RockRoadPix says:

    I appears that BM watched your review Philip!

    Passive MFT mount to be available in Dec!!!

    http://johnbrawley.wordpress.com/2012/09/07/blackmagic-change-it-up-with-a-passive-m43-mount/

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      Yep mentioned at top of this post!

  67. Major Sharke says:

    Philip,

    How are you getting these anamorphic images out of the camera. I noticed you aren’t using any anamorphic lenses, so how are you getting your 2:35:1 Aspect ratio? Are you scaling the Pro Ress Image or creating an anamorphic sequence?

    Also, did you see that B and H has now listed the BMC with a MFT mount?

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/891443-REG/Blackmagic_Design_CINECAM26KMFT_BLACKMAGIC_CINEMA_CAMERA_MFT.html

    Cheers

    Sharke

    1. alaindeloc says:

      How about cutting the frame, eliminating the top and the bottom until the anamorphic ratio?

    2. Bruno Simoes says:

      It’s not anamorphic, it’s cropped.

      1. Philip Bloom says:

        correct. almost all my work recently is same. love that aspect ratio

    3. I’m allowing myself to reply to this : it is just cropped.
      To make 2:35 (2.40 is more accurate nowadays as it is the more common anamorphic aspect ratio in digital cinema) there’s not too many ways :
      – you crop your image (not real 2.40)

      – you use anamorphic lenses compatible with your sensor/camera technology (normally you need a 1.33 sensor with traditionnal anamorphic lenses BUT the RED cameras have a 1.89 sensor [which is the new digital 1.85 ratio… You tell me if it’s confusing lol] and you can do true anamorphic with them so I suppose they have a trick for that inside the cameras)

      Hope I helped.

      1. Philip Bloom says:

        it’s cropped with a mask on a layer. i can then adjust my framing on my shots to compensate if i got it wrong

  68. EDDGAR says:

    Hi Philip sorry for my terrible english, i’m from venezuela… i love and enjoy your web site and your job, because is very educative… y would like make 2 questions about the Black magic.. 1) Is a full frame camera? because i have a t2i and you now , this have a crop frame… , and 2) Is much better than a DSRL in the darkness?, i hate the noise of dsrl haha. Well, thank you very much for your time and sorry for the nuisance.

  69. Terrific review, very honest that’s for sure .

    Enjoyed it immensely

    Thank you

  70. Oscar Vincentelli says:

    good job, really phillip thanks for giving your time, to increase our understanding of cinematography. great review

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      thanks oscar and to everyone else!

  71. Max Gibson says:

    Passive MFT by Dec. Finally !!!
    Thank you Mr Bloom for not washing over the sensor and mount issue in the first iteration of BMDCC. I’m sure they were just waiting to hear that from you.

    Guess what ; Peter J. Decrescenzo that’s been the official cheerLeader here has posted his first official and ” actual complaint against BMD over at John Brawley’s blog. Apparently he is upset because his electronic M4/3 lenses are not supported in this latest release news. Four those 3.5 others out there with electronic m4/3 lenses there could be hope. The language on the latest release note is mentioning in this ” initial ” release we are getting passive support for m4/3. That could get translated in many ways.

    Thank you BMD for being proactive.

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      to be fair electronic would be favoured by most, including myself. the mount when you look at it has no electronic contacts so if it released like this don’t expect any firmware fix!!

  72. DerekDoublin says:

    Philip,

    Great review as always. Real quick, what type of head do you have on those Miller sticks?

    -Derek

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      in dungeness? that’s the compass 20

  73. MART says:

    ohh max,

    i want to see your face when you realise that peters post was ironic.

    you know what this means? -> ;)

    1. Max Gibson says:

      hey marty,
      now that we know you and peter get each others irony, could you open it up for me this fact that you or peter actually didn’t open any posts in this thread and constantly peter rushing in to clarify things in ironic ways. As a matter of fact – ironic or not it could’ve been some contribution to this thread if peter had posted his ironic complain about the lack of support for electronic MFT. You know i’m just sayin’ ironically.

  74. Ivan says:

    This is a formidable, mammoth review! I found the section where you talked about the sensor size a bit hard to grasp. I would love to see some more low light shots, shallow depth of field shots and rolling shutter examples, perhaps compared with similarly priced dslr cameras. I’m confident those shots will soon emerge.

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      low light is not great and rolling shutter sucks. kind of ran out of time to be honest!

  75. johnnyc21 says:

    HI Philip,
    Thank you for this review, entertaining as always.
    Cameras are TOOLS, no matter how good the camera is , if you don’t know how to work with it, ur images are going to be shit anyway. To be honest of ALL the footage I have seen from the BMC, you images from dungeness are the only ones that meda me go, hum this camera looks cinematic, so thank you for that, thank you for your hard work and to shoot test footage that we can actually watch and enjoy.

    cheers

    J

  76. 8string says:

    Great review, Philip, thanks ever so much. With so much hype on many cameras these days this is a good well rounded overview. Likely not the camera for me, at this stage, but at least eliminates it for good reasons (no longer working on Mac as much as have moved to Adobe Pr on Windows). Maybe will look back into it some day. For now, it will be interesting to see the C100 and whether its worth the premium over the AF100 & Sony.

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      it looks interesting…checking it out tomorrow

    2. Barry J Gibb says:

      I’m with you, 8STRING, a really valuable review for those of us looking around the £5k area. Like many, I’d considered the FS100 but wasn’t sure it was the right camera for my style of shooting – something that I’ve realised increasingly over the past few months is far more important than specs.

      I film almost entirely alone and unaided – like Philip did with the C300 in his lovely short, The Diamond Magic. To this end, the EX1 has been a star but I crave that cinematic quality offered by todays affordable cams and lenses. Enter the BMCC, which had me on tenterhooks for months to find out what the pros thought. Now it’s all coming together and thanks to reviews like this, I can see the BMCC making some filmmakers very happy. But it’s not for me. Basically, if the C100 gets good reviews, I’ll live with its own shortcomings as it looks like it could allow me to tell the stories I want to tell, in the style I want to tell them.

  77. molinsky says:

    Hi Philip! This is my first comment on your site – and this is a great review. I’m also excited about the MFT mount and I should wait to purchase this one instead.

    But I’m looking for that german rig you showed after the Shape one. What is the brand of it?

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      it’s from bebob.de

      1. geoffz says:

        Philip,

        Enjoy your informative, candid no-non-sense reviews.

        Btw…generally speaking…shooting in america 60hz at 1/48 shutter speed at 180 degree shutter angle will be strobe-free.

        Best,
        Geoff Zimmerman
        Cinematographer

        1. Philip Bloom says:

          cheers geoff

          i was getting some strobing when testing…very bad street lights though!

      2. molinsky says:

        Thanks a lot! And again, great review.

  78. sursum says:

    Did anyone catch the name of the second rig he mentioned–the one from Germany that looks “very industrial”? I’ve played the video back a few times and I can’t understand the brand name Philip mentions.

    1. sursum says:

      Doh! Sorry. I had this window open too long I guess. You answered my question just above.

      Thanks, Philip!

  79. rajkumar thapa says:

    even though it’s a passive mount you can still control your iris on your ef lenses.. all you need is a redrock micro mft to ef adaptor… it runs around 550 dollars and you can control the aperature from the adaptor… don’t you think so Mr. Bloom?

  80. manusapo says:

    Nice Work as usual Philip. I can’t add anything to all the overwhelming comments you had already.

    Two Questions for you :

    – How did you manage to get the 2:35 scope ratio right without the crop marks onscreen ? ( it seems to me there is no preview available “yet” on the camera ).

    – Can you transfer the files directly from the camera ( through Thunderbolt for example ) or do you have to use a docking station ?

    You Rock !
    Emmanuel

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      guess work!

      and no thunderbolt doesnt transfer yet!

  81. HalTat says:

    Hey, apologies for the double post. I had posted in a reply instead of submitting a new comment…..is it just me or is there a bit of moire and aliasing happening on the boat??

  82. rwafilms says:

    Thank you soooo much for this review! I was very upset when I first saw the black magic camera came out because I had just bought my 5Dmrk3. At that time the price was around $4500. With the Black Magic being only $3000 plus all the other new cool and advanced things I saw I thought I really screwed my self lol. After this review I am sooo happy that I got a 5Dmark3, so thank you so much I love all of your work and am always learning from you and your videos. Hope to work with you someday…….thanks.
    -Rob

  83. fdprod says:

    Hey Philip, I really enjoyed your review. As a post guy, I think this os definitely the camera for me. But now, with the new Micro 4/3 mount option, I wonder which I should go ahead with.

    I already have complete access to the Zeiss CP.2 EF mount lenses. Would it be better to stick with the EF mount camera? Or should I get the 4/3 mount and just use my handy Micro 4/3-EF mount adapter and explore more 4/3 options in the future? Would I be losing out on much by using the adapter?

    Would love your opinion. Thanks!

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      i would say the m43 version makes so much more sense

  84. rparida says:

    I was JUST as surprised by the M4/3 mount release of this camera! I wrote a little blog post on it myself! would love it if you guys could check it out: http://ronparida.com/2012/9/8/blackmagic-cinema-camera-part-3-the-unexpected-micro-43

    Id love comments, and feedback! thanks!

  85. leongaig says:

    Are you one of the best. If you were not there I’d miss you!

  86. msk7 says:

    Thanks a lot first! You mentioned you want shutter speed instead of shutter angle. As I understood current firmware alows setting FPS and shutter angle like in film cameras and exposition time (read shutter speed) =(1/FPS) * (shutter_angle/360). Am I wrong? Could you make some tests of rolling shutter effect and check how shutter angle affects it. Does BMCC have motion blur with wide shutter angles. Some test footage just-from-camera will be great.

    Regards, Mike.

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      not that i can see!

      i will do some more test footage and comparisons between cameras when i get time!

      1. Stephen Gagne says:

        Hi Philip,

        Thanks for a great review. Huge help.

        A number of times in your review, you brought up the question of looking forward to firmware updates, such as the lack of audio level meters on screen. Do you happen to have any information on what aspects of the current camera’s processor CAN definitely be improved by firmware, assuming BM chooses to do so, or what’s in the works?

        I ask because I’m wondering if there may be processor limitations that might conceivably require a 2.0 hardware revision before some of the functionality you describe may be available. (In other words, selling one’s first BMCC and buying a later model.)

        This information doesn’t seem to be available on Black Magic’s site, or by phone when calling them with pre-purchase questions. I can certainly understand BM not wanting to be pinned down about when firmware updates may happen, but it sure would be helpful to know how far the current BMCC camera’s software may eventually progress.

        Kind regards, Stephen

        1. Philip Bloom says:

          impossible to answer. this is a question for them not me…but i cannot imagine most cannot be fixed easily…

        2. johnbrawley says:

          Most of the current planned firmware updates will be available for this camera H/W. (Audio VU, IS etc)

          jb

  87. Milan says:

    First of all thank you so much for all your hard work and your effort. All of the independent filmmaking community is thankful to you. Great review on the BMC camera.
    I have one question that has been creeping out since the announcement of the m4/s mount. Originaly I have planned to use my set of Samyang lenses (8, 24, 35) and Tokina 11-16, all EF mount as the main lenses for the BMC. Now with the announcment of m4/3 all world of lenses that I have used on GH2 opens up, including my absolute favorite LOMO OCT 18 mount russian lenses, however my dilemma is, if I opt to get m4/3 camera would I see any difference on my EF lenses (as opposed to going with the original mount for BMC) as well as how to change the aperture on my Tokina (as that would have to still be my main lens for BMC). Would it be better to just go for ZE/EF or for m4/3 in my situation?
    Thanks a lot!

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      you will need a mount that has iris control…there are a couple. More will come out for sure. Same quality as no glass is involved.

  88. RAM video says:

    Thanks for the Great review. It looks like BM is headed in the right direction with a nice camera for their first attempt. I can’t wait to see how it evolves.

    1. rwafilms says:

      For sure it looks amazing, im very interested in seeing their next camera. Hopefully in the same price range…..

  89. TimFok says:

    I just had a thought, something worth testing with the BMC is what happens when an external power source suddenly ceases (e.g your external battery runs out). Does it seemlessly switch to the internal battery without affecting recording?

  90. stanislaw says:

    It´s a pity that BMC didn`t opted for a super 16 size sensor or even standart 16 as there are a lot of both digital Zeisse and older analog lenses to be had designed just for that.. Smaller sensor size would made it easier to fit it with global shutter and the raw size would be smaller. Maybe a baby BMC?

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      or a digital bolex! :)

  91. gus almonte says:

    Maybe this is a dumb question, but does anybody know if you get 13 stops of dynamic range while shooting in prores?

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      no you cant am afraid. close though

  92. premini says:

    Can’t wait to have one of these toys.
    Could you specify which shots are made with the Tokina?

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      i think one shot in Finland…maybe two.

  93. fosterchen says:

    Hi Philip, I was wondering about C-mount lenses with the BMCC…would a 1″ lens (zoom or prime) cover the sensor or will there be vignetting? I don’t know if there’s a way to figure this out or do we need to wait until the MFT camera comes out?

  94. Mike says:

    Philip one fix for the glossy screen is to place a matte over it. I have a screen protector on my New iPad from a company called GreatShield Ultra Anti-Glare (Matte). You could buy the iPad matte and then cut it to fit the black magic camera.

    You could also contact the company and ask them to make a matte for the black magic cameras. I think they would sell well.

    GreatShield Ultra Anti-Glare (Matte) Clear Screen Protector Film for “The New iPad” 3rd Gen, Apple iPad 2, iPad 3 3rd Generation, iPad HD AT&T Verizon 4G LTE (3 Pack)

    http://www.amazon.com/GreatShield-Anti-Glare-Protector-Generation-Verizon/dp/B004QDU4R6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347322315&sr=8-1&keywords=GreatShield+Ultra+Anti-Glare+%28Matte%29

  95. BenC.H. says:

    Vimeo is just fantastically SLOW

  96. TakeHeart says:

    Phil,

    I can’t believe you were in Finland!
    And I even happened to be visiting Helsinki at the time of your shoot… *dang it.*
    Would have been an honor to bump into you during your visit.

    Give me a call when you’re here next time. Or a text. Or a telegram.
    Any form of communication really.

    Sincerely,
    Sam

    ps. Awesome review.

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      just keep an eye on twitter and Facebook! :)

  97. Corey Waters says:

    The lack of ND filters and super slow-motion are quite the bummer. Can’t complain about the image at this price point though. It’s absolutely gorgeous.

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      true…but for what it does…

      1. Corey Waters says:

        Yes.. all in all… can’t really complain. This is one hell of a bang for your buck.

  98. Nathaniel_K says:

    Hey Philip,

    Thanks for posting this awesome review! Very helpful. Question for you, what brand of SSD cards have you been using and do you have a favored card reader that you find works best for these cards? Thanks again for all your help!

    Nathaniel K

  99. I must say THANK YOU Phil for this review… I’m so glad they gave you one to try out. That John Brawley guy was pretty useless in terms of info on the camera…etc. He had plenty of time to do a proper review but just sat on it. You only just recieved the camera and already you’ve put out a much informative review on it… Thanks for doing this especially with a very busy schedule….

    PS – is that your lady friend or just a friend friend? hehe she’s cute

    1. johnbrawley says:

      Hi.

      Thanks for your feedback.

      I’m not really a camera reviewer. I was working with the BMD team from before the camera was announced to get it to the point it is now. My part was really to help them develop the “look” of the camera and give BMD feedback on the software and it’s functionality. The first time I shot with this camera it was a giant PCB with a lens mount and a couple of computers to run it. They’ve come a long way to get it to this point.

      Mr Bloom does excellent reviews and I think he did a great job of covering all the angles you’d want to consider.

      jb

    2. steve4505 says:

      I am quite shocked at your comment about John Brawley being useless. You must not have read much if anything on his blog or the several other blogs, classes, presentations. hes been active in. In fact, John was extremely helpful in dispelling false rumors and answering numerous questions during the introduction of the camera at NAB early this year and very much since. It saddens me how quickly some folk will make a negative comment probably without any truth. Phillip Bloom echoed pretty much every issue John Brawley had already discussed, but in general he presented solutions and a great deal of education as to why things were what the are. Just one last comment, John Brawley uploaded the first raw images that anyone could grade days before the camera started shipping to others. Those images have helped many understand a great deal more about this camera than any other camera I’ve ever seen released. I believe its a first. What is more important the camera rumored specs or the actual picture you are getting out of the camera?

      1. Philip Bloom says:

        sorry is that comment on here? i didn’t see that. will fix.

        1. Philip Bloom says:

          sorry just seen the comment about John. That’s crazy talk. John gave us loads of great info and also great shots to tinker with. It was not for John to do a review, but a third party…myself and others. He has worked closely with BMD tweaking that image so not exactly sure what more you expect from him?

          Please never trash others here!

          p

  100. c4ptch4os says:

    Philip,

    The main sticking point for me with this camera is the cropping in the wide lenses. I’m wanting to shoot on a green screen, as wide as possible with as little distortion as possible. In your opinion, will the new MFT version help with getting closer to a “full frame-like” cropping with the wider spectrum of lenses that will now be usable? If so, what lenses would you use — and if not, what lens were you referring to in the video that gave you the widest framing with the lest distortion on the EF/ZE version(the 8mm -16mm you mentioned)?

    Thank you so much!

  101. Phil, you totally DESTROYED any chance I had of a good nights sleep after this item popped up in my inbox (after driving 500KM and photographing a wedding). I am so excited about this camera it’s ridiculous.

    This is the first real review I’ve seen of this unit and I am glad it was you wot done it. I find your reviews to be efficient (relevant) and insightful in their commentary. I’ll be watching this one again.

    I knew I could count on you for keeping it real. None of the drawbacks of this camera can sway me from it’s magnetic appeal to simply record REDICULOUSLY HIGH QUALITY IMAGERY. I love the fact that they released an MFT mount. That must have been after some industry feedback. Can’t believe that didn’t do that before.

    I think good cinematographers take a “by hook or by crook” approach to nailing the imagery, so they don’t mind having to hack up rigs of various sorts to get the image they’re after, and that is why this camera has many years of life in it in terms of market position.

    I love the fact that it removes the excuses from the likes of sony and canon for dribbling out relatively low-grade/over-compressed for cameras around the same price.

    I think version 1.1 should include a better, more sensitive sensor. Perhaps they should be replaceable (like the Red?)

    Thanks again for your brilliance in camera review.

  102. grass says:

    An excellent review Phillip.
    I’m really wondering if BM is gonna listen to you regarding firmware updates.
    You brought into light all the “not so good” features.
    Speaking of raw shooting, you have a shot in the subway.
    @ 13:39 you film this train coming in, while we see some light sources that I’d really love to dive in,
    to check how much detail we can recover in there, since it’s raw.
    I ‘m curious about the reflection of the train lights over the platform.
    Would u please extract and provide a singe frame for us?
    I’m so happy with this review. Now i will definitely wait for the some fixes.

    Kind regards
    R.A

  103. BuddyC1481 says:

    Phillip,
    Good day mate :) I would like to know if you have used a Sigma 8-16 with your BMCC? I read Marco Solorio’s post on creativecow about wide angle limitations of the BMCC, however he says and shows with this particular lense that it performs very well. Have you had a chance to use this lense or the Tokina 11-16?

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      yep. I used it in this review and its listed as being used. Check out the blackmagic footage from dungeness bit! tokina not wide enough. 3 mmm makes difference at wide end…

  104. dfcorreia says:

    Hi Philip, thanks for the review! I have some Zeiss Contax manual lenses that I use with my 5D mark III (EF adapter). Do you know if I’d have problems with infinity focusing with the Blackmagic camera? And how about if I buy the MFT version? Using the MFT – EF and EF – CONTAX (two adapters), do you think I’d have problems? Thank you again. Daniel

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      why not use contax to m43?

  105. erickzig says:

    Thanks for this! Very telling… I hate to ask since it’s usually a matter of taste, BUT, if you were to do guerrilla-style short and feature work would you opt for this camera or something a little more flexible like the FS700? Do you think you could get a similar “organic” look from the FS700? Thanks!

  106. 2wrdsjay says:

    Great review! Thanks for the always in depth info on what’s out there. I’m a stickler for good audio and not having a proper XLR input seems a bit of a let down. Not a deal breaker by any means, but it’s odd that something so simple was left out. Overall it’s a slick looking camera but I’m more partial to my Sony FS100 (and soon to be FS700)

  107. rex511 says:

    Hi Philip, greetings from Peru, I have a question, for a young filmmaker, if you should have to choose between the Black Magic Cinema and the new 5D Mark III (for filming) what would you recommend? (both’ve got amazing features but different as well, 13 stops, raw pro res, resolve, etc vs sensor size 60 fps, full frame. etc)

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      Apples or oranges am afraid. Utterly different. Sorry but I can’t answer!

  108. sidmar holloman says:

    If I was to get the Blackmagic Cinema Camera EF, can I just attach a PL mount to use cinema lenses?

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      Afraid not. Very hard

  109. wooter says:

    OneRiver Media, the guys who did the first BMCC shoot, did a direct comparison with the Canon 5D Mk III.

    http://vimeo.com/49875510

    Side to side, the differences are shocking!

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      dont see what is so shocking…one has a heavy OLPF…one doesnt. That means the BMC is bound to be way sharper and the codec craps all over it. BUT it’s a different camera for different jobs.

  110. Don McVey says:

    I’m getting a BMCC but still in 2 minds about which lens option. Anyone got any advice on a good set of MFT lenses to start me off?

    I’m not rolling in cash and already have some EF’s (Canon EFs17-55 and the Tokina 11-16) If I got the sigma 8-16, I’d have pretty good coverage.

    But… everyone’s saying the MFT is a much better choice.

    Also, what happens when BM decide to bring out a s35mm version in a year or 2 and I’m stuck with all that MFT glass?

    Decisions decisions :)

  111. cuboirs says:

    QUESTION, If you were to use this as an ”A” camera for short films/music videos what would be a good camera as ”B”. ALSO i have a 5dmkiii would that work together well?? thanks for great review

    1. cuboirs says:

      Does anone know the MBPs on this camera?

      1. cuboirs says:

        Can anyone answer this ? Mbps on BMCC ? Does anyone know ? The c300 gives up 50 Mbps what can the BMCC give us in this spec?

        1. Philip Bloom says:

          It’s all easy to find! ProRes HQ is 220mb/s…Raw is about 3 times that!!

          1. cuboirs says:

            Thanks Philip for the response only yesterday I was on the phone with a rep at BM and asked the same question and was told the camera does 150 Mbps in raw cinema dng and in pro res it would be between 30-40 unless recording externally into something like the hyper deck shuttle 2 then it would be around 120mbps if I recall correctly…so with your response I am now confused!

            1. Philip Bloom says:

              you are confused between megabits and megabytes…i recommend a bit of reading!!

              1. cuboirs says:

                SORRY FOR CONFUSION
                thats why i ask ! in comparison to the canon C300 which does ”50MBPS”…..lowest accepted by broadcast
                what does the BMCC do in this SAME spec:
                but i cannot find this spec ANYWHERE ONLINE for the BMCC

      2. Philip Bloom says:

        already answered…

    2. steve4505 says:

      Unfortunately there is no simple answer to your question. In general yes because its being done all the time in Hollywood and around the world with cameras of such different specs. So depending on what you are doing could be tricky because of the crop factors, dynamic range, codex, and depth of field are quite different. if you are trying to do a 2 camera shoot (which is what most people mean when they talk about A and B cameras). If you mean where this scene is filmed with A camera and this scene is filmed with a B camera then that’s a different issue and may be much easier to do.

      There are plenty of folk who will have both, however there are so many other considerations. The BMCC is not a fast and quick camera to set up and shoot as compared to other more run and gun cameras. I know that on the last 2 indie films I worked on they would have used the BMCC as the A camera with some type of a DSLR for a B camera.

  112. Семен Еремин says:

    Philip, hello! I want to thank you on behalf of all Russian BMC potential users for your camera review. But in Russian, they have not been translated, and I, for example, with my not very good English, I understand not all. If you do not mind, help to deal with the selection of a set of business project.
    Most of the filming will take place on the beach or at a ski resort, where a lot of snow, with all the difficulties with the brightness and shadows. Pass if the screen BMC for these conditions? Sufficiently well cap, supplied, that would cover the screen from different angles of the sun in the shooting? Will work with a matte screen, similar to those that stick to the screens ipad?
    And if the screen in bright sunlight BMC still work hard, how to get out of the situation? Apply additional screen? Or use the viewfinder, similar zacuto vtf? For me this is a very serious questions, as the price of sets in the end will be different. But first and foremost it is a matter of quality of the material, because the shooting style reportage will be close to all the complexities. It will be streaming to work with hardcoded technical requirements for the operator and can not allow a lot of focus on the marriage.
    Accordingly, here are options:
    1. Tilta 3 with monitor and battery plate: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tilta-3-DSLR-Camera-Rig-Follow-focus-Matte-Box-Ruige-7-monitor-V-mount-battery-system/592355734.html
    About $ 2300
    2. – Tilta 3 without a monitor, but with the battery plate: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tilta-DSLR-camera-Rig-Carbon-fiber-rod-system-Follow-focus-Matte-Box-Safety-case-V-mount/538703802.html
    – Zacuto vtf pro. I hope the problems with its compatibility with the BMC will not occur?
    About $ 3000
    3. – Tilta rig: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/TILTA-III-HDSLR-Follow-Focus-Rig-System-Offset-Shoulder-Rig-w-2kg-Counter-Weight-Free-shipping/618030640.html
    – Tilta matte box: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tilta-III-4-4-Carbon-Firber-Matte-box-MB-T03-for-15mm-rod-support-rig-DSLR/636142731.html
    – Tilta battery plate: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Tilta-Brand-battery-mount-for-Power-supply-System-for-DSLR-rig-kit/578857878.html
    About $ 1800
    Sorry for the incorrect text, I used an online translator. hopefully got enough clear.
    Thanks in advance for your help!

  113. Greg Popp says:

    I know this was a review about the Blackmagic Cinema Camera, but for 45 minutes straight my jaw was on the floor over the Canon C300 images I was watching. What a camera that is! Thanks for the awesome review, Phillip. So cool to see such an educational and comprehensive piece with an artful film sandwiched in the middle. Quick question: when you’re not working with a ProRes footage as with this camera, do you still choose a ProRes workflow in Premiere? I mean, to you opt to create your rendered footage with ProRes? Thanks again for this wonderful piece.

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      Hi Greg. Thanks v much! I try to edit native as often as I can…

  114. Some more reflections on why the M43 version makes more sense to you then the EF version would be really appreciated. Would it be feasible to use for example EF/EF-S/Nikon/OM lenses using converters?

  115. Mondo says:

    Storage solutions: Check out FlexRAID – I like that, easily expandable and keeps parity on a single drive (has to be as large as your largest drive). Drives are readable outside the raid in their native file format (could be NTFS for Windows or ZFS or I think some other Linux based systems – mine are NTFS). You can run as many parity drives as you like for extra redundancy. I lose 2 terabytes by running two but if one parity drive dies the raid is still protected.

    Interestingly Windows 8 is or Windows 8 server will implement a similar technology..

    I bought a 24 bay enclosure (not the best just a cheapie) and just add drives when I need them – you don’t need a super powerful MB (a core i3 server based board will do with 4G of RAM) but you will need two or three 8 channel SATA cards (depending on available ports on MB) and the PCIe slots to support them. You don’t have to buy it all at once – you can add as required.

    This is purely a storage system and not designed for online – I back up camera data to it when I shoot a project.

    The biggest plus is drives are readable outside the array – this is the downfall of most raids – if you suffer a catastrophic failure you lose all your data. So if you buy a traditional RAID you need to buy 2 – one as a backup :)

  116. jokkek says:

    Hi,

    Thanks for the review!
    Your video reviews are really helpful!
    Seems like, you have to wait a while before buying the BMC.
    At least for MFT modell…

    Best regards

    Joakim

  117. louisjblair says:

    Thats pretty cool does anyone know where I can hire a black magic camera from I tried http://www.topnotchproduction.co.uk but they don’t have it in stock yet.

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      yeah…nice to offer it, not so nice to not have it stock for god knows how long ;)

  118. level6 says:

    BMD Camera are great !!! but. What is wrong with higher iso. Poor light, no artifical lights, just one window 16 pm today. REC with high iso 400 and BMD Camera give horizontal lines from down till up. Very very disapoint me. Maybe my BMD Camera are defect or BMD Camera just make only for low iso? FOR PROFESSIONAL USERS :) 200 iso no problems. DaVinci give very good result with RAW DMG files form BMD Camera. 3000$ good price !. Another problem is with SSD DISC 120 GB Kingstone it drop frames in RAW. System recommended SSD V+ 200 I have one and is DROP FRAMES. Eight second REC without dropp and….. boom! Drop frames between 10 or 20 sometimes 1 and sometimes 2. BUT! !!! 240 GB SSD Kingstone V+200 WORKING GREAT! ?. I Know 400 SSD are minimum :) he he. BUT ? Philip did you have any problems with BMD ?. I.m not a professional videomaker :) SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH!

  119. Edward Ornelas says:

    Hello
    So i’m greatly interested in buying this camera, but I’m not a fan of all it’s issue’s. I know there are adapters to fix some the cameras problems, but in the end, for me to actually use this camera I would have to invest more money.
    is it better for me to just stick with the canon 5d mark III, or is it worth the investment.
    And for the adapters, could anybody list websites or manufacturing companies where I could find external battery’s, phantom powered mic adapters, iris control lenses, rigs, external moniter’s, and such.

    Thank You

  120. slither says:

    Hi Philip. Thank you for this review. It’s total information, and that’s what we need as consumers to decide what works best for us. Have you heard of any firmware updates to correct these concerns? Or do I need to go to BMC to find out? Again, thank you! My husband loves your humour as do I!

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      yes! it’s getting better…slowly!

  121. whymrblack says:

    Which of these cons have been changes so far?

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      not much yet…with new firmware a couple of tweaks.

  122. LabTwenty says:

    Hello Phillip, I have a question, a question that I don’t found. The prores or dnxhd BlackMagic file open in Sony Vegas?

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      am sorry i dont know vegas!

  123. nicholasp313 says:

    Hello Philip,

    Thanks for the wonderful reviews. I am thinking about getting a BlackMagic MFT, and will continue using my 7D for low light stuff. I already follow your advice, and buy nikon mount lenses for my 7D. I was wondering if you think it is a good idea to continue to do this as I transition to MFT. Those Voigtlanders look great, but I’m kind of hesitant to buy anything except Nikon mount lenses because I’m so unsure of what technology will come out next. Plus, I plan on buying lenses before any new camera in hopes that BlackMagic will release a version 2 that addresses some of v1s weaknesses. Let me know what you think about Nikon mount lenses vs. MFT mount lenses for investment. Thanks!

    1. Philip Bloom says:

      Def Nikon mount….put the m43 speed booster when it comes out on it with nikons and we could have something special

      1. Saliq says:

        Hi Philip,
        As I have an array of Canon Glass, 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8, 50 1.4, 80 1.8 and other canon mount lenses,
        8 2.8, 35 1.4. would it make sense to get the EF speed booster and BM EF mount or would the m43 mount
        work just as well with my existing lenses?

  124. I used to be one of those who say: if you don’t have a story than its a waste of a video-shoot. I was dead wrong (and probably a bit immature). These kind of gorgeous moving images are telling a story, just like a still photograph is telling a story. These are gorgeous images Philip. Thanks for the top notch review.

  125. robertansley says:

    This review helped convince me to get a BMCC, and I am so happy I did. I just had a short narrative play at SXSW in Austin that was rendered at 1080 and it looked pretty crappy blown up on the big screen. I am currently shooting a horror short for film festivals with my BMCC. However, one scene of my short was shot on a Scarlet before my camera arrived. I’m conflicted about the best course – should I set the timeline at ProRes 4k and scale up the BMD footage, or scale down the Red to 3k, 2.5k, or 2k? Thanks!

    1. Jesse Mickle says:

      Hi Robert,
      You probably solved this already but just in case it’s still an issue I would suggest scaling down the Red footage as opposed to scaling BMD up.
      Simply because when you scale your 4K down your image is essentially lossless vs. scaling 2.5K BMCC up (which would give you a drop in quality-when viewed in 4K).

      Cheers,
      Jesse Mickle
      DP, Director, SFX Supervisor