Comments on: Initial thoughts on Canon 7d

By: John Novotny

John Novotny — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:39:46 +0000

I totally agree with you on the qualities of video versus film Mondo. I just think it takes way more than 24p to make video more cinematic. 24p SD video still looks like like crap compared to film.

But now with the advent of large senor cameras, HD and shallow DoF I’ve done an about face and totally prefer 24p.

By: Mondo

Mondo — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:56:38 +0000

I am also an old-timer 3/4 inch UMatic tape deck-lugging, RCA TK-76 shooting dinosaur. Only I’ve been waiting 30 years for a video camera that could shoot 24 fps. If you’ve ever shot behind the scenes on a movie set and marveled at how the acting and the action on the film are orders of magnitude more compelling than the sterile reality of your video footage, then you have witnessed the magic of 24 fps versus 30. Everybody makes such a big deal of shallow DOF. Shoot with ND on a 2/3″ video camera and you can have shallow DOF, but it’s still VIDEO! 60 fields of video is much closer to how our eyes and brains see the world, and so video looks more “real”. 24 fps slows everything down just a smidgen, and makes bad acting look better, car crashes cooler, and sexy women sexier.

By: John Novotny

John Novotny — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:51:25 +0000

True. I guess I’ll have to wait until my “palate” matures, so to speak, before passing final judgment.

By: pbloom

pbloom — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:38:24 +0000

good video. but it comes down to what you like the look of. 25p is what i like look of. i hate 50p.

By: John Novotny

John Novotny — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:37:20 +0000

The 24p Conspiracy:

http://www.vimeo.com/3388256

By: John Novotny

John Novotny — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:25:02 +0000

I’m an old time video shooter. I used to shoot on Betacam and even 3/4″ tape with the VTR that used to hang from your shoulder conected to a shoulder mounted camera.

In the last few years I’ve been slowly getting back into the game. The only advantage that 24p gives that i can see is international standards conversion.

I remember the DVX-100 24p SD video looked like jittery video, nothing more. It reminded me of guys putting fog filters on their Betacams thinking it made their videos look like film LMAO.

Is not the filmic quality in the DOF control, not frame rate? If you’re shooting for an NTSC market why not stick with 30p/60i?

As I stated earlier as I see it the biggest advantage of 24p is international standards conversion. 24p has far less impact on filmic look than DOF control. Even James Cameron agrees.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117983864.html?categoryid=1043&cs=1

By: loganbaird

loganbaird — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:26:59 +0000

Thanks Phil – were the iso’s similar in sofia & dublin?

By: pbloom

pbloom — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:54:13 +0000

won’t work. i promise you. not hd

By: pbloom

pbloom — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:48:33 +0000

i wouldn’t compare too much. Sofia’s people had the standard profile in it. Dublin had a more neutral look for potential grading

By: loganbaird

loganbaird — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:10:46 +0000

Hi Phil – been a fan for a while – great work….
Im confused now – just downloaded full res sofia and dublin to compare – The 5d mkII runs away with pic quality – much cleaner – no appreciable noise – and thats what makes the pics jaw droppingly zingy… 7d is good but doesnt zing!
shame cos everything else is right re frame rates etc…Slightly disappointing.