Comments on: Shooting for first time with Redrock Encore this weekend http://philipbloom.net/2009/07/01/shooting-for-first-time-with-redrock-encore-this-weekend/ Filmmaker, DP, Director Fri, 18 May 2012 17:59:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: aslanua http://philipbloom.net/2009/07/01/shooting-for-first-time-with-redrock-encore-this-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-16786 aslanua Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:01:11 +0000 http://philipbloom.co.uk/?p=4141#comment-16786 Hi Phil, still haven't had time to test the redrock micro encore? I was glad to see brian from redrock reply to some negative experiences had by some people...QUOTE - "I am happy to meet with you personally and let’s set up the Encore and show the results. We can even meet up at EVS and if they are willing I’d be happy to put it side by side with any Letus model as well. Phil – I also offered to come help you set up the adapter. Let me know, happy to assist if need be." -END QUOTE Sounds like someone who is very confident in their product. Just a question to Brian, the jpg of resolution chart looks excellent, although there appears to reveal some softening of image on the right hand side, especially the bottom right, Is this in the realms of acceptability across the board for dof adapters. Or may it be a set up issue? Hi Phil, still haven’t had time to test the redrock micro encore?

I was glad to see brian from redrock reply to some negative experiences had by some people…QUOTE – “I am happy to meet with you personally and let’s set up the Encore and show the results. We can even meet up at EVS and if they are willing I’d be happy to put it side by side with any Letus model as well.

Phil – I also offered to come help you set up the adapter. Let me know, happy to assist if need be.” -END QUOTE

Sounds like someone who is very confident in their product.

Just a question to Brian, the jpg of resolution chart looks excellent, although there appears to reveal some softening of image on the right hand side, especially the bottom right, Is this in the realms of acceptability across the board for dof adapters. Or may it be a set up issue?

]]> By: redrockmicro http://philipbloom.net/2009/07/01/shooting-for-first-time-with-redrock-encore-this-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-16732 redrockmicro Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:04:07 +0000 http://philipbloom.co.uk/?p=4141#comment-16732 Hi all - some interesting comments. I think some of the confusion is around the transition to our newly formulated achromat for the EX. Both Alex and Martin/Karl's experience was with the prototype achromat (Alex, incidentally that was under NDA with you). All current Encores are now shipping with a newly formulated achromat that is fantastic on the EX series cameras as well as others. a customer sent us this animated gif example of stock lens and EX with Redrock Micro Encore: http://www.redrockmicro.com/pmw-ex1_redrock.gif Karl - since you were involved in the shoot with Martin I assume you also knew that he was using a prototype achromat (hand built) and Martin's eventual fix was to simply reseat the prototype achromat that had simply come loose. With the release version Martin has reported no problems at all. Alex, I know you tested the previous achromat, and we made the prototype version available to you. Based on your reporting back to us as "good" I assumed you used the new version, but listening to your results you report here, it sounds like you didn't. I am happy to meet with you personally and let's set up the Encore and show the results. We can even meet up at EVS and if they are willing I'd be happy to put it side by side with any Letus model as well. Phil - I also offered to come help you set up the adapter. Let me know, happy to assist if need be. Cheers Brian Hi all – some interesting comments.

I think some of the confusion is around the transition to our newly formulated achromat for the EX. Both Alex and Martin/Karl’s experience was with the prototype achromat (Alex, incidentally that was under NDA with you). All current Encores are now shipping with a newly formulated achromat that is fantastic on the EX series cameras as well as others. a customer sent us this animated gif example of stock lens and EX with Redrock Micro Encore: http://www.redrockmicro.com/pmw-ex1_redrock.gif

Karl – since you were involved in the shoot with Martin I assume you also knew that he was using a prototype achromat (hand built) and Martin’s eventual fix was to simply reseat the prototype achromat that had simply come loose. With the release version Martin has reported no problems at all.

Alex, I know you tested the previous achromat, and we made the prototype version available to you. Based on your reporting back to us as “good” I assumed you used the new version, but listening to your results you report here, it sounds like you didn’t. I am happy to meet with you personally and let’s set up the Encore and show the results. We can even meet up at EVS and if they are willing I’d be happy to put it side by side with any Letus model as well.

Phil – I also offered to come help you set up the adapter. Let me know, happy to assist if need be.

Cheers

Brian

]]> By: Alex Barroso http://philipbloom.net/2009/07/01/shooting-for-first-time-with-redrock-encore-this-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-16506 Alex Barroso Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:02:24 +0000 http://philipbloom.co.uk/?p=4141#comment-16506 Yea I know all about the achromat, under contract from Redrock to actually not talk about it and my experiences with it, lol. (I live near their home base) Other issues consist of constant adjusting due to the unit is a bunch of pieces with thin pins holding it all together.Just too clumsy of a kit in my opinion, especially on a professional set.Just made more sense to me to get the 5D Mark II and skip all of the tweaking. Yea I know all about the achromat, under contract from Redrock to actually not talk about it and my experiences with it, lol. (I live near their home base)

Other issues consist of constant adjusting due to the unit is a bunch of pieces with thin pins holding it all together.Just too clumsy of a kit in my opinion, especially on a professional set.Just made more sense to me to get the 5D Mark II and skip all of the tweaking.

]]> By: pbloom http://philipbloom.net/2009/07/01/shooting-for-first-time-with-redrock-encore-this-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-16495 pbloom Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:59:22 +0000 http://philipbloom.co.uk/?p=4141#comment-16495 when did you try it out Alex? there is a new achromat which should make it spot on when did you try it out Alex? there is a new achromat which should make it spot on

]]> By: pbloom http://philipbloom.net/2009/07/01/shooting-for-first-time-with-redrock-encore-this-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-16426 pbloom Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:13:54 +0000 http://philipbloom.co.uk/?p=4141#comment-16426 yeah I am struggling at moment to get it set up properly. yeah I am struggling at moment to get it set up properly.

]]> By: Alex Barroso http://philipbloom.net/2009/07/01/shooting-for-first-time-with-redrock-encore-this-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-16371 Alex Barroso Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:14:16 +0000 http://philipbloom.co.uk/?p=4141#comment-16371 I returned it 3 weeks after I purchased it and didn't keep any footage due to it was useless and could not be used for the projects. I ended up getting the Canon 5D Mark II instead which as far as I am concerned, is a much better investment and complements the EX3 quite nicely.=) Here's a picture link from the private Redrock forum, one of many examples of the problem. http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/474/build01.jpg Good luck with your test's sir. It's no Letus that's for sure. I returned it 3 weeks after I purchased it and didn’t keep any footage due to it was useless and could not be used for the projects. I ended up getting the Canon 5D Mark II instead which as far as I am concerned, is a much better investment and complements the EX3 quite nicely.=)

Here’s a picture link from the private Redrock forum, one of many examples of the problem.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/474/build01.jpg

Good luck with your test’s sir. It’s no Letus that’s for sure.

]]> By: pbloom http://philipbloom.net/2009/07/01/shooting-for-first-time-with-redrock-encore-this-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-16317 pbloom Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:14:08 +0000 http://philipbloom.co.uk/?p=4141#comment-16317 Have you got examples? Not had a chance STILL to test it out Have you got examples? Not had a chance STILL to test it out

]]> By: Alex Barroso http://philipbloom.net/2009/07/01/shooting-for-first-time-with-redrock-encore-this-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-16304 Alex Barroso Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:11:16 +0000 http://philipbloom.co.uk/?p=4141#comment-16304 The Encore is trash. I had it for my EX3, and yes it's pretty much impossible to get edge to edge sharpness without sacrificing focus in the middle.Plus the bajillion different hex keys you have to use to adjust it. The Encore is trash. I had it for my EX3, and yes it’s pretty much impossible to get edge to edge sharpness without sacrificing focus in the middle.Plus the bajillion different hex keys you have to use to adjust it.

]]> By: pbloom http://philipbloom.net/2009/07/01/shooting-for-first-time-with-redrock-encore-this-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-16168 pbloom Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:36:24 +0000 http://philipbloom.co.uk/?p=4141#comment-16168 As soon as I can Chris I will. There is no "alliance", it's down to the best tool for the job. For some time now Letus has been the best tool for me. Same with cameras...everything. As soon as I can Chris I will. There is no “alliance”, it’s down to the best tool for the job. For some time now Letus has been the best tool for me. Same with cameras…everything.

]]> By: Chris Clifton http://philipbloom.net/2009/07/01/shooting-for-first-time-with-redrock-encore-this-weekend/comment-page-1/#comment-16137 Chris Clifton Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:12:25 +0000 http://philipbloom.co.uk/?p=4141#comment-16137 Checking everyday for your Redrock Encore Review. You are a busy guy...please keep us posted about when to expect this review. Some of us are waiting to pull the trigger on the purchase of a Letus Elite vs. the Redrock Encore (same price range) based on your experience. No pressure there! On behalf of all of your followers, we appreciate your honesty and efforts in spite of your alliance with Letus in all things DOF. Checking everyday for your Redrock Encore Review. You are a busy guy…please keep us posted about when to expect this review. Some of us are waiting to pull the trigger on the purchase of a Letus Elite vs. the Redrock Encore (same price range) based on your experience. No pressure there! On behalf of all of your followers, we appreciate your honesty and efforts in spite of your alliance with Letus in all things DOF.

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